Considering TRT
I apologize in advance for this lengthy post.
Should I start TRT? I’ve been wrestling with this question for more than a year.. I’m 51 yrs old. 5’8” 182 lbs. around 20% BF (I think). Last summer during my cutting diet I got down to 170lbs not sure what my BF was at that time but I’m guessing it was around 17%. I’ve been working out off and on since I was a teenager, I started back in the gym 3 yrs ago at an unflattering 200lbs. I feel much better now than I did then. I love the gym and workout 4-5 days a week. My diet hasn’t been great lately, but I will have it dialed back in before summer hits. I’m willing to put in the work to get results, and understand that results at 51 aren’t going to be the same at 31.
Since I’ve hit 50, I don’t feel as energetic as I once did. Around 3:00 in the afternoon I feel a drop in energy. I work out in the evenings and find myself cutting workouts a little short a couple times a week because I’m worn out 30 minutes into a planned hour workout. I’m seem to be sore more now than I used to be, and it takes longer to recover from my longer heavier workouts. As for libido, I still tango with my wife, but rarely more than twice a week. My energy is ok, my libido is OK, and overall I feel OK. But I don’t want to “Just feel OK”.
In December of 2017 I asked to have my testosterone tested as part of my annual checkup. It was 477 ng/dl. In December of 2018 it was 371 ng/dl. I didn’t get my free test numbers. I asked my GP if I should be concerned about low test levels. She said it was in the normal range, and that was that. She did mention that TRT could effect a person’s heart health.
I’ve never done gear, but have always been curious about it. I’ve been researching TRT for about a year, and I’m now i'm considering giving it a try. I’m do have concerns about once I start, it is for the rest of my life, and I could see me as one who would not stop there, I would want to try other gear to continue to get better results.
My goal for TRT would be to improve my quality of life as I age; have the energy to continue to work hard in the gym, and better recovering time. I want my libido to improve. I want to be able to put on a little size and lower my BF. I don’t need to look like I’m 30 yrs old, but I want to stay in shape and look good for a guy in his 50’s. I know I won’t beat father time, but I want to put up a good fight.
I’ve learned a lot from reading the forums on this site, and glad I decided to join. My question to this group…Is TRT worth it, and will it help me reach my goals? I’m considering using an on-line clinic to get Test. with a doctor’s prescription, and they will monitor blood test results.
I appreciate your thoughts.
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Great information here!
I appreciate everyone’s comments. I am concerned about what TRT would do to my health (BP, cholesterol, RBC), and if I moved forward with TRT, I would make sure to get my labs done regularly. I don't want to place my overall health in jeopardy. That’s the reason I made it to my 50’s without doing gear. I thought about cycles throughout the years, and had access to gear. It wasn’t my goal to be huge, and I always took pride in being a natty. I guess my question is, if I can take my test level from 400 ng/dl to 800 ng/dl on a low dose of Test (100 -200mg/ week), is it worth it? How much better would I feel? Has anyone on here done that? I know I would need to monitor my BP, Cholesterol, RBC, etc. I definitely will take the advice that has been presented here to get a doctor I trust, and do my blood work regularly.
Try it naturally first
Read this, thanks me later:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt/considering-trt-at-lown...
Oh and eat lots of onions. Will be adding that in soon. When I say lots, I mean... lots. Make onion soup daily with loads of onions blended.
Alphamale500In my salads, I add a large amount of a mix of fresh minced onions and garlc among other things. They contain allicin, which has many health benefits including antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral properties. They're also really good for overall heart health. They're like an all natural antibiotic. They contain antioxidants that fight inflammation which helps to lower triglyceride and cholesterol levels, blood pressure and also help prevent blood clots.
All of these are benefits are extremely beneficial to us guys who use gear, let alone the average person. As A.I.'s can potentially mess with our triglyceride and cholesterol levels. The different compounds we use can mess with our blood pressure. And the increased red blood cell production and increased estrogen levels caused by the different gear and whatnot we use can cause blood clots. All of these can help be prevented by increasing your intake of onions and garlic. Talk about a "Superfood"!
Onions offer amazing health benefits. Nice giardap!+
The secrets to good French onion soup is to add red wine. Yes I can cook my ass off.
Very interesting read...I'm always open to tryin things naturally.
As I pointed out below. NO, not without a doctors care.
I'm 60, when I was your age my levels were around 200 I experienced all the issues you point out. And still do from time to time and my levels are around 800 to 900.
You have Normal levels. You've let those TRT commercials Sell you on the idea that getting testosterone will fix all your issues. It won't. What you are doing is like putting your arm in a cast because you have a cold. It's the wrong treatment and won't help your cold.
Before you make a commitment your doctor wouldn't make for you check for other causes. Change your diet, get more sleep, etc.
If you just want to run gear, learn how to run a cycle and proper PCT. Don't make such a drastic long term choice.
Alphamale500Very informative, helpful information! Do you mind me asking you Greg, what's your trt dosage?
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Greg. Thanks for the comments. Like I've said I've been researching TRT for quite a while, and I've been on the fence on should I pursue it or not. You make many good points that I need to consider.
IMO it doesn’t seem like you really need it. But if you do decide make sure you get it from a Doc. Idk about where you are but over by me I hear a TRT Doc commercial at least once a day between tv and radio. Just remember going on TRT is a big decision and if you decide to ever go down the rabbit hole of other AAS it is not something to be taken lightly. It’s a serious decision that I think many take lightly. Just my 2 cents tho.
TRT is a personal decision between you and your Doctor. You need to discuss the benefits as well as the drawbacks and then make the best choice for you. As long as you have a Doc that you trust it's all good!
Thank you John. Good advice.
Your testosterone levels are normal. They also are changing constantly, getting just 2 normal results 1 year apart does not show a "declining trend".
Suck it up. You're getting old. I bet you're not jumping off of 4 foot high ledges anymore either, (much less your garage roof). Are you going to look for Glucosamine supplements now because of that?
You feel low energy around 3pm, so do I and I am on TRT. Take a nap. It's allowed. Those millennial yuppies call them power naps.
Eat more complex carbs throughout the day. Take B complex and B 12, take ZMA. Drink more water.
Sex only twice a week? That's called marriage. TRT isn't going to fix that. Your sex life is normal. I wish I could be "up" and humping like a rabbit as I was when I was in my 20's. But, alas, I'm on TRT and still only have sex twice a week on average with my wife and 6 of her friends. (well, minus the friends part)
Unscripted TRT is not worth it. Without a doctor's supervision, you will have problems with RBC, cholesterol, BP, and permanent damage to otherwise normal functioning testes. You will have a hard time explaining your above normal testosterone, suddenly high BP, cholesterol, and RBC to your doctor (like she won't be able to put 2 and 2 together after your low T conversations). Do you have insurance? Do you like having insurance?
I got tired after lunch my whole life.
I must have an old soul..
Lol....
Twice a week??! Damn. You have a good marriage. When I was married it was like once a month if I was lucky. Hahaha
×2 and I'm still married. Shes at the mall with the credit card right now. Hoping I'll get lucky later...
As a point of fact, a potential patient never arbitrarily self prescribes medicine based on anecdotal evidence.
A patient only after recommendations from a doctor may choose TRT.
You need to speak to a trusted medical professional, consult, and have them pull bloods. After full review of blood work based on numerous consultations and visits if the data warrants they will recommend a protocol for you.
Your doctor will advise you if "TRT is worth it" in your situation