posted Mon, 03/03/2014 - 12:20
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Rich Piana's new supplement line
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruOk_xG2eN8
What do you guys think he's going to come out with that hasn't already been beat to death? No protein powders no weight gainers.... I'm lost.
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So you would rather trust ronnie coleman the all natural? What about Phil Heath ole just eat meat and taters and you'll be a olympian. Don't forget there's Hulk hogan advice, " To all my little Hulkamaniacs, say your prayers, take your vitamins and you will never go wrong". Now who's jerking who off? Rich who came out and told it like it is or all the hypocrites that sware you don't need steroids to be MR Olympia? Sure he made money marketing but hell he was telling the truth at the same time
I partly agree but he hasn't actually came out and told it like it is though has he. If he had, it would off went along the lines of "hey guys, you know everything I told you about protein shakes while I was sponsored, well scrap that as I made it all up to get paid, some of you will understand that, others won't. Now I'm actually bringing out my own line soon and any support would be much appreciated".
INSTEAD. it's more along these lines. "Hey guys, I'm here today bringing you the TRUTH they don't want you to know about!!! FOOD! Food is the answer!! Fuck supplements!! Real FOOD is what we need...........by the way I'm bringing out my own supplement line".
Well I've been watching rich for the past few years and his message has always been EAT, EAT AND EAT. Never did he say, " just drink protein shakes and you'll grow", now he may have drunk mutant shakes on some of his videos but he never implied that it was imperative. In fact his videos with Ric he explains cycle theory, insulin, Hgh and the truth behind bodybuilding. And to beat it all, he has been among only a hand full that has came out of the closet and people want to bash him? And far as his supplement line goes it is not going to be a Protein Powder or Weight gainer but a supplement that will help you EAT more FOOD, like some of the bulk tablets some of the guys on here love. WINK WINK
I like the big fella but the reason people are bashing him is purely on the fact he specifically stated in a ton of videos exactly how important shakes are and how he never leaves the house without them etc etc Now they suck lol thats it in a nutshell.
If I had to guess id say the appetite stims are an absolute certainty to be in his line, maybe along with variants of pre workouts and bcaas etc.
never heard of wink wink tablets, please elaborate on your supposed inside knowledge of this amazing supplement that going to be so great.................
Didn't say I had inside knowledge nor did I say it was going to be so great, But they are sources on here that sells pills that INCREASES your appetite to EAT MORE FOOD!!! Can't really tell you without breaking the rules, didn't join this forum yesterday (PM me)
I think most people can see through his Bringer of truth routine but lets be real for one second, if you buy ANY product based solely off what the spokesperson or adverts say you are completely fucking up. If his shit does turn out to be a high quality ( however skeptical that may be ) and will benefit my diet, I wont hesitate to pound it regardless of his past buisness dealings or the smack he talks.
AnonSame here, although I'm not sure exactly what could possibly benefit me aside from things you can't market for human consumption. As far as increasing gains anyways, there's a plethora of support supplements I take pretty much year round for just about anything and everything health wise. I guess that's what makes me interested.
It is funny how we talk about this here (I'm sure other boards are talking as well) then he puts out the sponsorship vid AAS and slin vids right after within a day or so on each topic... makes me think he's actually trying to market to people that know what the deal is... which doesn't make sense if it's just some junk. Either way we're talking about it = successful marketing.
Rich getting into selling frozen meat?! I think he's missing the point, whey protein is a supplement and should be treated as such, it's a great fast acting source of protein. It's because of dudes like himself that under educated people are trying to live off them instead of using them with a balanced diet.
I know I'm going to catch hell for this, but I like Rich Piana. I personally don't care about who makes the supplements, I'm only concerned with the ingredients and price per serving.
AnonI like the content he produces his personality and I like that he brings at least some realism to the table by not denying steroids + pushing that you have to eat 6+ times in every video practically. While I do like what he just said in his newest video that I just posted here which is basically "bodybuilders don't actually use the supplements" which of course they don't..... This is simply a well timed and executed business strategy, not a sudden desire to enlighten the masses. Really boils down to this "new" type of supplement that he's hyping up so effectively, what it actually ends up being. Complete BS or something that may genuinely help people that already eat and train heavy to some extent.
Said product is launching in 8 weeks in the vid
Either way - I'm a fan of truth telling and brilliant entrepreneurship so I'm interested. Currently the only "supplement" I use or plan on using is a weight gainer, I like having the dextrose/waxy maize + raw eggs for a post workout shake followed by a real meal an hour later.
Rich is pretty much the second version of me.... minus some muscle mass lol... I totally agree about eating real food, and passing on the supplements. However some supplements can be very beneficial, but they are not necessary. The only way to put on size is to maintain a anabolic state, eating. I personally don't like the idea for feeding people half truths to steal their money and ruin their dreams. Supplements are a big money bringer, and money isn't always earned with honor.
AnonHe just put up I think yesterday talking about steroids. Respect.
He's admitted using them, GH, IFG-1, Insulin.. He did a whole thing on it with Ric Drasin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j44rf3k0q7Y
Anonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUYSi3c2Oo
New vid responding to getting called out basically. Interesting. Hell of a marketing scheme to get people watching at the very least, I actually do want to know wtf it's going to be hah
The best response of all the people..and I agree with was from peacefulmind who said and I quote:
The problem with this is that is you are an "honest person", who wants to "tell the truth", why would you step backwards and lie for a supplement company deal?
A good example, is if I feel that cows are holy and should not be eaten, when then would I take a job for the USDA selling beef burgers on T.V and saying I eat a lot of beef everyday?
That my friend is dishonest and just wanting to make a buck!
You lied to get sponsored, now are mad because you got fired. Now you have been formulating a product for years? Sorry, did not know you had a chemistry or organic biology degree Mr. PHD..
And yes, I do understand how it works, with companies and athletes. I also know that pharmaceutical companies make supplements, then hire people just like you to sell them as "your formulation".. Really is a joke that on one hand you talk about people not knowing how it works, then slipping another sneaky trick on the other hand re-fooling people that you actually created something.
Bottom line, if you want to be "honest", if you felt the way you do about protein powder, why did you take the deal with Mutant!
I wont buy any of his products anyways because im smart enough to know 90% of those supplements are a complete waste of money but I could not believe the nuthuggers posting. He is a true marketing genius because he lied in peoples faces yet they still love him and buy his products
lmao, hes probably a member on here.
It really wouldn't surprise me any.
ive seen most off his youtube videos, hes always bitching about all the internet forums flaming him (obviously he would be anonymous) etc etc, then this goes u and he makes a video the next day, sus to me.
Well he's half way right, because I been to a couple other forums and the response I seen to some questions made me laugh, so I understand where he's coming from.
He's talking about the truth and misconceptions... Okay Rich, how about you talk about Slin, growth, and all the peptides you use in accordance with your AAS regimen to get that physique.
It is all in the food, as long as you got the designer drugs to utilize that food the most efficiently way.
AnonI genuinely want to know how many times a needle big or small enters that man's body a week lol.
I don't know how to quote but the bit you said about drugs to utilize food..... exactly. More important than the type food itself it would seem.
I actually received an email from a certain somebody a few weeks ago, it listed this guys typical cycle, it was ridiculous, ive never seen anything like it in my life and its nothing like anything ive ever seen on any forum, I was shocked to the point I even showed my mum, it actually took me about 15 minutes to read to her, it was 12 weeks leading up to a show, I hadn't even heard of half the shit that was in it, and the diuretics weren't even included, it would be about 2o pins a day.
Well, all we can do is wait and see what his produce line will be.
I use to love watchin his videos now he can kick rocks w his phony ass!!! Mutant this mutant that now under the bus is where Mutant went to him!!
Funny how I've watch him push the mutant mass and say how great it is. He even gave it to his dog. Now, he's completley throwing that shit under the bus. I did like this guy, but lost some respect for him for this two faced approach to make money !
I agree about liking Rich. However, I would have to disagree about two faced part of your comment. I would personally take almost any opportunity to make money. Supplements, Contest, Guess Appearances, Autographs, Personal Training, Bouncing, Striping. It's the dream I'm chasing, making a living doing what I love, bodybuilding.
He has obviously seen Vike's post where he details the famous Tuna Pepsi combo....
That bastard! That $h!t is patented! That synthol freak will have V to deal with now.
Dude doesn't know who he is fucking with,only one possible solution, BAN HAMMER
Boooommmm!!!
Honestly, he contradicted all of his other videos, where he consumes massive amounts of protien. Shit, he even feeds his dog protien, in one video. Im thinking its going to be like the "insanity shakeology" mix of berries and veggies. Who knows, hes in this for the money, he will feed us anything literally! ;)
natural t boosters and preworkouts, copies of ronnies stuff, ill bet, just money makes for the younger generation...... i wont buy any ill stick with what i know and trust
I've tried Ronnies line of supplements, Ronnie is awesome and a lot of people like him, so he has a reputation to live to. I like his pro-antium, but if you leave it in the shake overnight, wow... dude it coagulates worst than any other I've used. Tried his myo-blitz it was good for a little while, had to up the servings relatively fast. Had a bit of a funny aftertaste. Right now I'm using musclemeds' NO BULL It's good stuff, I stay away from the stuff on cycle. Hahaha not trying to die young brother.
natural t boosters and preworkouts, copies of ronnies stuff, ill bet, just money makes for the younger generation...... i wont buy any ill stick with what i know and trust
AnonNever said I was lining up to buy anything haha just interested to see what it ends up being.
I spend enough on plant extracts fish oil vitamins and minerals thx I'm good.
maybe even pills
Oh damn people are shitting on him pretty hard in the comment section of that new vid. He was pimping that mutant shit so hard.
How fucking funny. A couple of months ago he was making vids saying he takes like 10 servings of mutant mass a day and now he's like all shakes are garbage.
AnonYeah he came across very hypocritical. I think his point may have been that there is no real substitute for food, which is true obviously, but came at it from a bad angle. Made it sounds useless - definitely not useless food is just a much better option.... Hell I use some weight gainer post w/o (100g carb about) I like the calorie hit with some simple sugars + raw eggs followed up by a normal meal an hour later. But I don't use it to replace meals just to supplement my post w/o caloric needs. My metabolism is very high takes me pushing towards 5,000 to really make gains on cycle. That makes it easier to hit my mark particularly when I'm busy.... pounding down food is never a problem for me I'll still get hungry on 5,000 it's more of an issue of having to time to stop and eat so often - and shit so often LOL.
I can't do shakes/powders in place of meals my body tells me to man up and cook.
Yeah check out this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc7uJ-22bwQ
Meal 1: oatmeal with mutant whey.
meal 2: mutant mass shake
meal 3: chicken and rice
meal 4: another shake
meal 5: fish and rice
meal 6: greek yogurt with mutant whey
meal 7: dinner at a restaurant
meal 8: ice cream before bed lol
He just sounds completely full of shit not to mention the fact he says he never used synthol.
there is nothing wrong with this list.. cant help but make gains on it.
as for the synthol. there is a video where he mentions that he has- used it..
which I tend to believe ...sez it blurs the muscle fibers or something....
ill never understand that shit..
AnonCan't say I disagree. I'd be shitting blood on that diet real talk.
He is selling a new line of synthol products that you can rub on your muscle and it will grow, the jackoffs will believe it and buy it by the gallon. He is a decent dude but when it comes to money he will pimp anything that will give him a paycheck even if its horseshit.
Chicken flavored salt?
Mmmmmm...... I'm totally in!!!
aylmejorMaybe some fake steroids with catchy names like.... D-Bull
AnonMaybe he found a way to get prohormones back in circulation legally under another guise haha... that's about all I can think of unless it's just more crap. I like Rich from his vids and his honesty don't know the guy personally obviously, it would seem a bit out of character to come out with complete bullshit. But who knows. It's interesting anyways
aylmejorHe's not completely honest. He tells tid bits and low balls many things. He still sells bs supps at the end of the day. not to mention his huge abuse of sythol or pmmaa or whatever crap he likes.
AnonYeah man you ain't kidding on the synth or whatever the hell he keeps his arms ramped up with.... but he does admit synth use too.
I'm not out the defend the guy by any means he's out to make money but shit I would be too. Still interested to see what he comes out with. What if it's all shit that's meant to compliment our cycles? That'd be interesting lol.