posted Thu, 09/10/2015 - 09:55
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I keep up with world news, I gess it makes me feel better about how fucked up things are here in america.i was just wondering were some of you guys stand on taking these people in and wondered how you guys felt about it. Like it or not their coming this way as well, no way around that, unless we break away from the u.n !
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Terrorists coming as refugees.
No border control at this moment because of schengen agreement...just a catastrophe. Isis even brags online how they've sent 18 members here so far...they've even had recruiting teams stopping Arab looking people at shopping malls before. Local little girls constantly being verbally molested by these asylum seekers, and our politicians and police is only worried about hate speech and racism that apparently is everything that questions their legitimacy as asylum seekers..
bigwillyKeep a watch on European news clips. You'll see that now reports of rape are being reported in big numbers. Also children being taken and raped as well.
My god !!
does not suprise me, mohummed the prophet= pedophile- thighed 8 year old girls, its their religion, they think its ok.
bigwillyYes, the desease known as islam, a political movement disguised as a religion, perverts murderers criminals and sickos ! Oh yea bring it here,lol
bigwillyYes, the desease known as islam, a political movement disguised as a religion, perverts murderers criminals and sickos ! Oh yea bring it here,lol
Mainstream media wont touch on this kinda things.
Alternative media is where you can find a diffrent kind of truth, a side to this story they dont want to be known.
There have been several rape assaults around refugee accommodation centers in Stockholm Sweden within a week.
This is another that tells what`s happening in Germany:
http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/document-muslim-migrants-raping-women-an...
Many wise words here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=335_2KhNQ9o
bigwillyThx for sharing that brother, I'd hadn't seen those.
Honestly guys this forum needs deleted. Those pics are not something for eriods and this is causing a big rift. Kinda crossed the line of good debate and turning Into a big debacle but who am I. I wear a helmet all day so i don't hurt my head. I like tater tats
. So if u mods think it's all good I do to just concerned it might be goin to far
Come here and grab my hand and I'll walk you back to the little bus :).
Do I get to drive this time I'm sick of riding
vhman drives.
I got fired from that job. Something stupid like "bad touching". Tide always seemed to like it...
I always supported your dream of been a professional skier. The problem came when u got between me and Tony u just kept goin around in a circle to Tony side. Something to do with a smaller pole but at least Tony was supportive
That's because you sit on the floor.
mikeyg4321Lmao! Wtf! You foul bro
Hey I'm a team player. The good ole days we used to go around having sword fights but unfortunately it wasn't quite fair. Vhman and Tony always brought daggers to the fight but still good times nonetheless
Oh is it made for his handicapped. All the controls on the wheel and a special place for his walker.
http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=mHv_-q2YNFE
He drives so crazy remember when we stayed at the Fairfield Inn
Haven't really checked posts below but this is BULLSHIT. "refugees" coming here are almost all 18-35 years old men who have nice clothing, iPhones, iPads, etc. Media has only one truth and they've launched a huge brain washing operation that their version is the only right one. News are filled with footage's of small children and women when in reality is completely different. All different opinions are blocked from comments sections, nobody is allowed even to question that right now Europe is being under invasion of people seeking better quality of life rather than truly fleeing from terror or war. If you do that your called a racist. Fucking Islamisation is truly happening now, these "refugees" come here because everything is given to them once they are accepted officially to refugee status. Family members are flown at governments expenses, houses for free to live, everything you name it. Education is for free, basicly it's a lottery win for them. This place is so fucked from now on, Somalis and Arabs in generally have high unemployment rates here not to mention they are over represented in rape crimes, these crimes committed by them are really high in every Scandinavian countries. Idiots are saying we need them because our people are getting old and we need people to work, fuck it we have unemployment rate of 10% and they've been saying it from 1980's and that day still hasn't come yet when we're out of people to work. Native Europeans will soon be a minority and it's because of our naivety. These people just can't live in peace and once they've set their foot in here their just going to destroy all of Europe as they've done to middle-east and Africa. All just say this, Europe will be SO fucked up because of it's Islamic population.
RustyhookerWell said!!!
What percentage of our overall population would the refugees represent? What percentage of our GDP do you think they'll use?
What benefits do you think we'll gain in world opinion? What benefits from Productive new citizens could we see? -even if it's a few generations from now.
I can speak only from my small Scandinavian country perspective here mostly.
At this rate refugees are pouring so that 180.000 are coming within a year,our population is roughly 5.3 million.. Nothing is done to prevent or making this place less appealing for them by our government, more like the opposite.
At this point almost all will be given some sort of Refugee status as theyre not stupid and will lie as much as possible. Family reunification is part of a refugee status and this means that 180.000 will multiply at least easily by 3-4.
50 000 refugees cost 600 000 000 €/year.
Majority of asylum seeker are from Iraq and Somalia.
We´ve had refugees from those countries pouring in for the last 20 years or so. Both of those groups are integrated to our society very poorly, employment rates are aprrox.13% for both groups. For reference Nepalese have 72% employment rates.
Whats the difference? Nepalese are not for the most part refugees while most of Iraqis and Somalians are.
They are also well represented in rape crimes ,23% of reported rapes are done by foreigners while foreigners are minority in our population by 3,8%. Biggest group out of that 23% is Somalians and Iraqis.
In Sweden 90% of the rapes are done by foreign ethnicity and out of those 77% are done by MUSLIMS so go figure..
Every fourth new born Swede is a native..thats right ,out of 4 babies born every day only one is of native ethnicity, doesnt take an Einstein to realize that pretty soon natives are a minority there.
Sweden in general is filled with NO GO ZONES as is UK and France, places that are full of Islamics with their sharia laws and their population is growing at rapid speed when comparing to native Europeans.
The cost of refugees is a huge expenditure to a country that will accept them.
It´s hard to see new productive citizens coming here when there are no jobs available,and its been that way for a long time.
The seed of unemployment is planted for a many future generations for them, and the problems that arise from it will just transfer to their children and grand children.
A refugee will never be able to pay back the cost thats been invested to his social integration.
The fact is these "refugees" are for the most part interested only in having the social welfare advantages of mid and northern EU countries, they dont come here to integrate, they come here to be part of their own society with advantages of western civilization given to them.
Australia:
http://mvlehti.net/2015/09/13/no-go-zones-australia/
"refugees" in Hungary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOZIpjySdE4
Muslims in France:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm8SXxHJXg4
Sweden couple of days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm8SXxHJXg4
"refugees" turning Greece into mini Syria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA36bS2x4Fw
"refugees" not giving a fuck about help :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKBczfw3Ac4
bigwillydam brother, when you put it that way it kind of trumps how the libs feel.
im sorry for all the cities that are effected by this, I really am.
I wish people would grow some testicles and make the tuff choices.
i cant speak for the rest of the world, but there is no "no go zones" in australia, you can go anywhere at anytime, there is no areas that are too dangerous to walk around, i mean we have rough areas with what i call the less fortunate which are usually junkies etc and you have a higher chance of being robeed or what ever but we do not have areas run by minorities or foreighn/ ethnic gangs or groups, sydney for example, type in cronulla riots, a few lebanese guys bashed a life gaurd at the beach on australia day, thousands upon thousands of aussies rioted in the streets, it was unstoppable, yes they are growing in numbers and yes there little street gangs can be dangerous but they are not taking over anything and there is no no go zones anywhere here, except native/ tribal aboriginal land which you are forbidden to trespass on due to ancestors being buried there but thats another story.
The existence of No go zones in general are not accepted by all and many times are not officially recognized.
No go zone in that clip was for certain individual who didn't get along with local Muslim extremists.
But do you agree it was from Australia and that Muslim extremists riot was from there?
I do however trust you and not questioning your opinion at all here.
As far as I know Australia is nowhere in same situation as some EU countries are.
Australia's PM actually stood up and told them, assimilate into our way of doing things or leave. He (to my knowledge) is the only leader to do so and it does seem to have had an immediate impact. The issues you guys are having in Scandinavia and the rest of western europe are exactly what I am talking about. There is no question, it is a huge problem. In America they make our Mexican and Central American immigrants look attractive in comparison.
this is true, unfortunatley he is now gone, his own party voted him out 2 days ago, we have yet another prime minister that we did not vote for, our poiltics here is out of control.
we need a leader like that......
You are possibly correct but the wild card is that we don't know how many terrorists are walking amongst them. Make no mistake ISIS surely embedded some of theirs into the refugee's.
RustyhookerExactly! The Boston bomber came here as refugees.
Then they win... You are both terrorized.
C'mon bro. That is just being realistic. We would love to accept them and help them relocate but not at the cost of American lives. Last year when people were freaking out about the kids here from central America I counter protested on their behalf. We had not a single reason to think any of them kids was a mass casualty threat to Americans, in the case of the Syrians we do.
thetdog623837Put them in front of a line of gpmg's and get rid of them! There not humans they are worthless animals
bigwillyA few of the powerful governments of the world could very easily take a chunk of land over there in one of those war torn countries and just let them ocupy it.
This would be a perfect way to show the world what these people are capible of. They will either thrive or kill each other, I'm gessing it won't be pretty but at least the rest of the world could say we did what we could.
bigwillySo far I'm a butcher, a racist, a piece of trash because my heart don't bleed for these people. And I do admit, I have no pity for them. I make no defence, I'm 100% against bringing even 1 refugee here.
But until they strip us of our freedom to feel how we wish I'm not in trouble, disliked but not in trouble, not yet anyway !!
I am glade to see us all ( TALK ) about it though. With out a bunch of nasty rude blows at each other. Hats off to you guys for being civil. I expected pale to remove this, good for him to let be discussed !!
America! Fuck yeah! Coming to save the motherfuckin' day! God bless the USA! #1! Woohoo! Feel and think differently instead of like a lowest common denominator sheep? Well, then you should leave the country. Yeah...I love that logic. Typical. I'm a better man for having seen more of the world than just the United States. I have a bigger world view because of it. Other military brats that have traveled the world know what I'm talking about.
Usually I stay out of these discussions, but this one reeled me in. What am I here for? AAS, information, and camaraderie. Politics on a forum like this sucks. If we're in the gym and you need a spot, I don't give two fucks about political and religious beliefs, so why am I discussing my beliefs here? Hmmm. I learned something today. Humility is my greatest teacher. You're all alright with me regardless.
bigwillyThe really hard part about this issue is like or not, it's not gonna be only about politics. Religion will come into play because 100% of the people in question are islamic/muslim. I think as rule we try to avoid politics and religion because there is no win when dealing with these issues.
20 years ago I'd have been fine with being the guy to squeeze the trigger on the flame throwers at the boarders. But 42 years of this life and it's struggles has changed my stand on lots of stuff. It's a heck of a thing to look threw diferent eyes.
agree 100%
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we already have too many people here that many of us rather not be here. I feel more and more in the minority when I go around in Urban areas.
Any fellow native americans want to chime in on this?
Well this post got wild lol. I figured I'd stay out of this one. Big fan of trump tho :).
bigwillyDon't be ashamed of that either !! The man speaks for a lot of us when he says ( enough ) all of what says don't fly but most will.
I'm not ashamed at all. I personally think presidential elections means shit but some new figure head, they all have their own personal agenda, the problem doesn't lie with the president tho it lies in congress and all the corruption and deep pockets of the crooked politicians in office who have been there for ever. Are country has its flaws as all countries do, don't like it here , move. I don't watch all these crooked news channels either like fox etc etc. I tend to stay out of political conversations because it tends to come down to bias opinions fueled by what people think is the truth because they hear it on television or from some news reporter. The real big issues are watered down and/or swept under the rug. Best thing to do is focus on yourself and do what you can to change the tide and try an influence others to do the same , don't think about me me me focus on everyone's well being.
Asylum is a basic human right and the burden needs to be shared. Germany are taking in 800,000. A lot of people are afraid of letting in terrorists determined to wipe out America but in reality more Americans have been killed by gun violence than terrorism. The media creates a culture of fear and then shows you commercials every 10 minutes. It's total bullshit. The asylum seekers are a lot less dangerous than the real threats to people's safety which actually comes from your fellow countrymen. That's my opinion anyway but I'm a European so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
I have dual citizenship. I'm German and American. I must not know what I'm talking about either! I agree.
bigwillyOne reason iv liked eriods is because iv met and became freinds with people from all over the world.just this morning I got to talk to a member who lives in turkey, and it just blows my mind at how all of us on this earth have in commen that our governments don't seem to have our backs. But I do like everyone's input on things,even the guys I disagree with. At least we can all agree that things are not ok, and we do need to work on making the world a better place.
The reason I posted this is because I watched the footage of refugees spitting on aid workers and throwing the care packages back at them and I was overwhelmed with hatred towards those people. I thought to myself how can a person seeking help be so crude and disrespectful when their the ones asking for help and aid. I really wonder where this world is going when helping people is an insult.
Our governments don't have our backs because the people in power are controlled by others with the world's wealth and resources under their control.
I'd like to see the footage you're talking about. Do you have a link? I'll try Google for it.
bigwillyMy god its all over youtube brother, even face book at this piont.
I'll grab one or two and get em to ya though. Try ( refugees destroy Greek islands) or things like ungrateful roudy refugees, things like that.
Don't like Mexicans? Watch this:
http://www.someecards.com/videos/comedy/george-lopez-donald-trump/
I'm tired of republicans bitching about immigration. Had the Native Americans built a wall on all 3 coasts...hahahaha. It's usually, almost always, white people of privilege bitching about immigration. Where did your forefathers come from? Hmmmm. You reap what you have sown. Take from someone, and someone will take from you. That's, after all, what you're afraid of and losing your "way of life."