+ 1 PDiddy situation...not good
This subject is a bit off topic but I'm sure lately you guys have heard about Mr. Puffy aka PDiddy getting his houses raided by the Feds and Dept of HomeLand Security...not good. For those that don't know it's NOT GOOD when both come knocking at your door. Feds have over a 90% conviction rate!!! Yea you read that right. So far it's reported by law enforcement they're looking into just sex trafficking at present time. So what I noticed was PDiddy and his group of famous buddies seem to act feminine and engage in weird sexual activities so I figured since I read some comments on male feminism that I would combine the two topics. I don't judge but I do know that alot of men today are definitely more feminine than in the past and if men were feminine in the past they clearly didn't show it as much as some men do nowadays. Crazy situation man. I know alot of you guys workout to PDiddy's music!!
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Ever think it's angelic and not aliens? Ever read the book of eziekiel and eziekiel's wheel?
AK80I would tend to agree with you there. It's a huge universe out there. Perhaps aliens mated with monkey and made us? I think we just evolved over time.
Cern comes to mind. Some demonic shyt
There logo is 666 and they have a dancing Shiva statue in the front of cern building. which Shiva is the God of destruction.
They are trying to tap into the bottomless pit and pull them out. It was built under an ancient temple of appollo.
We are gonna be seeing some crazy stuff the next decade
AK80Kind of a stretch there, but I know what you mean: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=cern
The Denver, Colorado airport is pretty messed up too.
Look at the picture to the link you just posted its an eye.. it's no stretch.
Yes the Denver airport was always a very strange one too I forgot that one
Most ppl don’t even realize the all seeing eye/666 hand symbolism over the eye. A symbol which every celebrity who has given their oath has done on record with pictures taken to prove it.
Exactly, or the monarch butterfly. Glad you're seeing through the deception. Eyes to see, ears to hear my brother.
A closed mind is a controlled mind. An open mind is a free mind.
Ezekiel definitely had a story to tell for sure.
He did indeed
Even if they aren't angelic the fact of the matter is this Universe as we know has no ending and to think we are the only ones in it is crazy. Even some Physicists have said that. All this talk use to be foolish but not so much now lol
Is it though? I tend to believe the bible over men.
I know it's rare to think like that now, but I've had my whole life change since I've gone and reformed my life and started following torah.
I also believe we have a firmament above earth that separates the waters above from below like it says in Genesis.
Sorry D not trying to hijack your thread with bible stuff.
But Chad's right, whether someone does or doesn't believe in Satan the people in the shadows running things 100% do.
They put his mark everywhere.. wanna know something bizarre? The first apple computer was sold for $ 666 there symbol is a apple with a bite.
We are living in a crazy time where I believe Isaiah 5:20 explains it best
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter
Have you ever researched the word Adam? the play on words is multifold. Used as a noun Adam means Man or humanity. Adam is not an individual; however, the name serves well in Genisis to create an imagery of mans "ordained" fall from grace.
What is humanity? What makes us man? Our primate body? Or our consciousness, our being, our nature? Our living soul.
There's no doubt there's bacterial life, plant life, animal life on other planets. What if there's other intelligent life as capable as we are, evolved from something other than earth type primate? A reptile for example. What if they too were breathed into by God the living soul of humanity? In all of the universe, humanity is peppered throughout the stars. All with the capability for an awareness of God.
Adam is an archetypal form coming into manifestation.
Yes I have researched Adam, have you researched it in the hebrew? the first human according to the Hebrew Bible, which is, in turn, derived from the noun adamah (אדמה), meaning "soil" or "earth"
It means soil,earth because that's where yah took Adam from and we all return there when our body's die. Adam the name comes from soil-earth
Yah blew his breathe "ruach" into Adam that's yahs spirit his life force so to speak.
Your body is nothing more than dirt and earth in the end and it will return to that after this life
Your soul "you" is what's judged at judgment depending on your faith,good works and sin "lawlessness "
So you ask what makes us man? His ruach makes us man our consistent urge for righteousness and have his torah on our hearts. His spirit is what makes us who we are
You have a body that has a spirit "breathe,life" and a soul they are not the same.
There is no other life that's predictive programing from decades of t.v with zero proof of any of the science fiction you hear on t.v because that's all it is.
We will agree to disagree, honestly because the world has lost its faith more by the year.
The bible gives you all the guidance in this life that you'll ever want if you seek it. Torah=instruction, yahs instruction on how to live life and be successful with him and through him
Bless you Greg thank you for commenting on my reply brother.
@pingree24 Just wanted to say I appreciate the conversation that you brought to this post. I also appreciate your support. I tend to support those that support me, it goes both ways. I know who you guys are lol. It's a 2-way street. Later man.
Thanks my dude! I appreciated our conversation on this post aswell, I'm glad we could have a truly great conversation like we did.
I got your back anytime you need me brother, always here for you guys.
Have blessed day D I'll talk to you soon bro!
You bet
Perfect, so we are in agreement. It is not our primate body that makes us man.
The name derives from Adam (Hebrew: אָדָם), the first human according to the Hebrew Bible, which is, in turn, derived from the noun adamah (אדמה), meaning "soil" or "earth". When used as noun, אָדָם means "man" or "humanity". (true also in Greek)
As I said, there's a lot of word play with soil, red, blood, earth, and humanity.
Matter is "dust" as opposed to spirit which is without form. (Also reference Plato and form, and John 1:1)
Our body shall return to dust because it is of dust. Humanity however will not die. (your individual soul may).
Spirit and soul are not the same, that is correct. The soul is what god breathed into mankind, humanity. To differentiate him from the animals.
Take note, God created the beast man before he breathed the breath of (spiritual) life into him.
Quick tangent: The spirit moves but is without any substance, there is no spirit molecule, no mass, no spirit gravity... but yet (like Plato's Forms) Gods word (idea) moves the spirit which has no mass.
It is no-thing. But somehow it makes things manifest. Awesome or what?
There is no conflict with the big bang, the creation of, matter, light, the planets, and evolution. There is nothing to insinuate that "mankind" or "humanity" is a consciousness that exists only on planet earth. I'd argue that where science and religion agree there you have the greatest truth.
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- Albert Einstein
"Religion must stand the analysis of reason. It must agree with scientific fact and proof so that science will sanction religion and religion fortify science. Both are indissolubly welded and joined in reality." -- Baha'u'llah
I would argue that the creation story is for all that exists. God didn't randomly pick out an insignificant rock in all of creation and say, "Yup, this is going to be the center of it all. This is where I focus all my attention."
To say there is no other life is akin to when religion mandated that the earth was the center of the universe, and the sun revolved around it. The Torah/Old Testament doesn't say there is no life anywhere else. Some Rabbi's actually have arguments supporting the idea of life on other planets.
"So, if there would be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, those creatures would have to have Torah. Could they have a different Torah than us? This is not possible, since Torah is truth, and there cannot be two truths."
...“I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people” (Heb. 8:10b)
Glad you are searching greg puts a smile on my face to have like minded people here.
There's only one God and one torah correct.
4 “Hear, O Israel: [a]The Lord our God, the Lord is one! 5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
6 “And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. 7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up. 8 You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. 9 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates
Deuteronomy 6:4-9
As far as space etc goes we've a different opinion on that all together.
I think you and I could sit around the kitchen table and drink some coffee and have some truly edifying conversations.
The breath yah blew into us all returns to him when we die that's spirit not soul
Ecclesiastes 12:7
then shall the dust return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
It's his spirit that gives us life our soul is resting until resurrection and judgement. I can put scripture up but it's all through the Bible
These people today the majority aren't practicing science it's their own new world religion.
True science is backed by provable,repeatable test that show the same results.
Not theory and ideas that have no scientific backing and never staying the same because they can't prove any of it. Those are theories and thesis that are being pushed as factual.
Have a blessed day greg thanks for the back & forth I enjoy it
Spirit is the force that animates all things. Soul is the light of god "breathed into" man. God is a trinity. Father (the word, consciousness) Son (all that is created, material, matter) spirit (the life force that makes all things manifest.) Plato teased this out with his concept of forms, quantum science is also heading in that direction.
Science claiming there is no intelligence within the universe is bad science. Religion without natural law is dogma and bad religion. The bible/Torah didn't say earth was the center of the universe, it was the church. It took until 1992 for Pope John Paul II to officially concede that the earth was not the center and make an apology for the way the church treated Galileo.
Don't let dogma and the ego of man blind you to the possibilities of life on other planets, intelligent life, and beings we will recognize as human though they may physically be quite different. There is nothing in scripture (old and new) that says there is no life elsewhere. In fact, there is more written to suggest there is life elsewhere.
The bible says that we have a firmament that covers our plane. The Hebrews believed the world to be flat with 4 angels at each corner.
Nowhere in the bible does it say that God is a trinity, that's a pagan construct of the Roman catholic church.
The trinity is a false doctrine as much so as saying that Christmas is the messiahs birthday which also is nowhere in scripture.
Same with Easter there is nowhere in the bible that tells you to celebrate Easter but it does tell you to honor passover in remembrance of yahusha hamashiach "jesus" it too is a tradition of man and not scripture.
The Roman church hi jacked Jesus movement and integrated lots of pagan beliefs into it to help convert there populist.
Nowhere does the bible tell you yo abandoned the 4th commandment of sabbath for worship on SUNday, or to eat swine which you will not find one single verse that is positive about pig.
Jesus never sinned "broke the law" he showed us the template to follow. And we've gotten so far away from what he was teaching it's mind blowing.
That's due to roman assimilation of the message he and his apostles followed and taught with pagan holidays like saturnlia/ christmas.
Dont you think its funny that in isaiah 66 on the day of the lord "jesus return" he says that the ones eating swine and mouse will be consumed by fire?
Yet the majority of people eat that very thing for Christmas and easter? Which neither of those are in the bible or like swine its abomination in yahs eyes
I dont care what the catholic popes say because they worship idols and not yhe messiah. And they are the reason we are in the mess we are in
If there were other planets and life the bible would have told us. But it did tell us about angels and the fallen.
Let me ask you a question this time, what's judged on judgement day? Your body,soul or spirit?
Genesis 6:
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Notice what it says? It says in the earth not on the earth and there's many more times it says this
Joshua 10: 11-14
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11 And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the Lord cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword.
12 Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the Lord fought for Israel.
Question, if we circle the sun and the sun doesn't circle the earth how could Joshua stop it for a day?
He couldn't, it would have to say he stopped the earth rotating around the sun for a day.
Have you read the book of Enoch? It's valid scripture that was found in the qumran caves. That will tell you how the earth looks and luminaries function.
I respect your opinion Greg, but you will never convince me little green men are out there and i hope and pray someday yiu see how silly it is.
Ever think they are pushing this alien agenda because once the messiah returns they want the world to think its an alien invasion? Read 2nd esdras chapters 13&15 it's literally what it says will happen when he returns
Again thank you Greg for responding with a kind heart bro. Pm some time bub we could keep this going for awhile I enjoy these talks.
If I've offended " if you're catholic " I'm very sorry definitely not my intention
I'll just say this...the bible doesn't speak of other planets yet there are other planets. It speaks of the heavens, greater stars like sun and moon along with other stars, but not specifically planets.No it also doesn't speak of other forms of life but does that mean no other life out there exists? I understand that if we don't read it then it must not exist but I'm not to sure about that. Again it goes back to certain things we are meant to know about and other things we aren't meant to know about...at least not now.
I believe they are described as wandering stars instead of fixed stars
As far as aliens go I guess that all depends on your faith and beliefs and that's only a decision a person can make individually.
Alot of the pagans worshipped these wandering stars/planets that's where Christmas comes from saturnlia
The worship of baal,molech was saturn/satan worship
Same with the romans Mars= God of War planet worship they worship Jupiter and saturn
These were the things the bible said for us not do.
Thanks for all the great back and forth guys. This is the best community on the net hands down
By stars I'm thinking that could possibly refer to planets too. But in reality both are different. We know the sun and moon are true stars.
O yeah I'm familiar with those Pagan practices by the Romans and others. The term wandering stars isn't in the beginning. It doesn't mention those.
As far as aliens I still can't say what they are. No one can actually. All we can do is assume by going by what we've read that's all. So yeah I'm at a standstill on UFOs lol
Have you read enoch yet?
I'm familiar with it. The Annu could be the answer.
When we say Aliens we don't know what they are but we do know something that defies the basic laws of physics is out there and that's verified. Could be anything, Angels Demons, or another life form. But to say it's nothing is a bit silly to me. Any object that has speeds way faster than Mach 10 speeds to just stop on a dime isn't normal. The G force would destroy that flying object lol. We're not told everything so we just don't know.
No I agree 100% if you thought I was saying other wise I apologize I must have worded myself poorly.
What is up there has been there from the beginning and I 100% believe it's angelic not aliens from a far away place.
But to each there own and someday we may know. I believe the higher ups of the world already do if I'm honest.
I used to be the biggest space guy ever, all the plant x / nibiriu stuff I loved it. But than I realized it was more science fiction than most movies.
We are all in on a path with the hope to meet in the same place at the end, thus the narrow gate.
Matthew 7:13-14
Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it
Meaning getting to the end of the race is hard and not easy when you are seeking paradise.
I've 2 orbs do that in real life when I lived in New England and I'll never forget it ever
No I understood where you were coming from. Long ago I wanted to know those answers but I realize that all those answers aren't meant for me to know, not at all and that's what people have a hard time understanding. Once you make it to the destination then all answers will be granted to that individual but until then some things remain a mystery and we continue to guess.
You wanna read a good book read 2nd esdras chapter 7 verse 70-100
It's the only book I know of that explains what happens when the body dies.
2nd esdras behind matthew is my favorite book
Looks like an Apocrypha book.
Yes, that's what the protestant calls it today. Did you know it was in the kjv bible until the 1880's and wasn't removed until the Wescott and hort revision of 1880's?
The orthodox& catholics still have it in there Bibles but most importantly the oldest bible in the world contains it, which is the Ethiopian bible.
which also contains the book of Enoch & jubilee both those books were found in the qumran caves "dead sea scrolls"
It's an amazing book D I hope you sometime get a chance to check it out
God's word is all we know instinctively. God said ALL MEN not men of any particular faith. All men include pagan's and atheists will have his word written on the hearts and minds. Whether they recognize him or not.
The Holy Spirit is the power of God. The father and I are one, I be who be, (I am who am), the alpha and omega... There is none other than God. The trinity is alluded to throughout scripture.
Matthew 28:19, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
Ecclesiastes 12:7
then shall the dust return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Energy is a constant. Dust shall become the matter as it was (not disappear) and the spirit *(has no matter -it's not "energy") shall once again be part of the whole. God is a singularity; infinite or undefined.
Yes, all men have his commandments on there hearts as Deuteronomy 6:4-9 says but not everyone wants to follow they want yo rebel.
What is judged on judgement day?
But see the trinity has been debated for awhile now. It's the Trinity vs Oneness debate. I think God exists in 3 forms but one entity.
Correct
If I had to be lumped in a box I believe through scripture
Modalism/Sabellianism
Is the correct thing scripture teaches not a trinity. From my studies that's man made and pagan at its root. All most all pagan religions had a trinity.
If you read Isaiah yah "father" says there is no one else but him as savior
Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD, And besides Me there is no savior
I belive yah manifested himself into the physical realm to teach us the way to heaven.
Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation
I also believe proverbs 8 is referencing the messiah
All these references refer to the WORD, The Godhead, the Father. Without full context or understanding, it also creates a dualism. A deity above in the heavens, and man below on earth. Two separate things, God, and creation (as only 2 legs of the trinity). Creation being made of spirit and matter, i.e., dust. (Ecclesiastes 12:7)
But we know God to be all things, so that is a false dichotomy.
“See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind." --Isaiah 65:17
"One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." --Ephesians 4:6
"I and the Father are one.” ...know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” --John 10:30-34
Isaiah 43:11 in context is the father not the word/son
Yah can be in any mode at any time he wants he could be in all 3 at the Sametime who are we to put a limit on what he is capable of?
1 God not multiple gods its all him in different forms
I'm a father,a son and a husband but I'm one man... 3 different modes/things in one being thats modilism
You never answered my questions.
What's judged at judgment day, in your opinion through your understanding of scripture? Soul,spirit or body
Was jesus always in existence or was he created at some point?
Was he the very first creation before everything?
Was jesus yah in the flesh or a completely different being?
Isaiah 65:17
Is referencing zion/new Jerusalem
We never actually go to heaven he comes to earth to dwell with us forever and ever
Thanks for your answers in advance greg
@pingree24 Read carefully lol. So I was leaving the grocery store the day after the eclipse and the store manager happened to see me outside and says the weather has looked strange and he felt it had a strange feel to it, I agreed. It had been raining and was very windy. He then says it's a sign. So I also agreed with him on that. I then ask him what religion was he but here comes the kicker...he says his background is Messianic Hebrew, similar to yourself. He said he was almost 70 but he's been into messianic Hebrew for over 30 years. So we started talking and I brought up the fact that both eclipses from 2017 and 2024 passed through towns named Jonah, Nineveh and Salem. I had to look into it after seeing that all over the internet and yes it was true. He already knew and we started chatting about that. If those towns weren't purposely under eclipse then I don't know what is purpose. But anyways he and I had a long discussion. I told him that a few days earlier you and I had a discussion and both you have the same Messianic Hebrew roots. Thought that was interesting.
@DeeMan
That's pretty cool bro, there is actually a lot of us around we are just scattered until messiah's return, when he gathers us all together once more.
I hope you guys had a good conversation together!
On that subject it's pretty interesting no?
When you look at the 2017 eclipse then the 2024 eclipse they create an X, in the center where the 2 lines meet is called little Egypt " southern illinois " that in it self is pretty freaky.
Some would say coincidence but I don't believe in coincidences.
Check out this video on the cities that it passed through and the constellation
https://youtube.com/shorts/rmw2rVPTPbI?si=DWmjy8lfM-GqTx6l
No coincidence at all..no way. Yeah I remember seeing that x and area called Little Egypt in the center of it. I just don't see how it is even possible to be a coincidence not with just the 2017 eclipse but with this past 2024 eclipse. Everything combined is clearly purpose. And then there was the whale constellation. Sounds like a conspiracy or something made up but that's far from the reality of the situation. If those things aren't signs I don't know what would be a sign. @pingree24
@DeeMan
Then there was the revelation 12 sign on 9-23-2017 that is a once in 7000 yr event.
We are truly seeing signs for sure.
They are saying Iran will attack Israel in the next 24-48 hrs
Definitely reminds me of Matthew 24 with the pandemic the celestial signs wars and rumors of wars breaking out.
Every day for the almighty is 1000 yrs for us we are leading into the return of the messiah slowly but surely.
That's why I think they are pushing the alien narrative so badly.
When he returns everyone will freak out thinking its an alien invasion
@pingree24 this picture is what a close buddy sent me. It's unedited.
Clearly if you zoom in there's something to be seen. Several people on TV reported seeing this same thing. He sent a video too. Clearly something was moving in the sky.
During g yhe eclipse?
O yeah. And I've been knowing my buddy since we were teenagers. He won't waste time of foolishness