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+ 13 Abusing gear..in a rush to harm yourself

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So I just saw some comments on an SI about newbies "slanging" the term trt around and going straight to more harsher drugs such as tren. For newbies or anyone thinking that this type of mentality is right, you're wrong and possibly dead wrong. It's insane. Do you even care about your health a little bit? Damn. Guess not. So I take it that these same individuals are willing to risk it all for that "Mr.Olympia" body that they heard is supposedly only obtainable with tren and high rediculous doses of gear. In reality if you don't have the genetics you could use a gallon of gear for a lifetime and STILL NOT look anything close to that Mr. Olympia or anyone that has a great build that you're chasing. It's plain and simple, an individual can only develop the body to a certain degree. I know alot of folks hate to hear that but it's reality, so just develop the best body that is within your limitations. Lastly newbies, trt is simply replacing natural testosterone levels so anything over that natural limit isn't trt.

ONESICK's picture

Kudos brother, I was considering doing a post like this yesterday. My main fucking problem now is the amount of advertisements I see. It's gotten wayyyyyyy out of hand. I see a constant push for TRT, dick pills, gear, peptides and sarms. The TRT advertisements list a plethora of "symptoms" claiming if you feel any of these you may have low T. Even so far to claim SARMS, will make you feel young again. So many are falling into this BS of a trap too. I go through comments of guys saying man I been on this for a few weeks and my life is better lol. Then complain a few months later I gotta up my dose because it stopped working. No you dumb fuck, you only feel great for what? 8 weeks then that feeling is your new normal. You just got used to it. Unfortunately there are a lot who don't think of the long term effects of staying on a high amount of gear for years on end. They're fucking retarded and it irritates me lol. If you live a shitty lifestyle before and during TRT. You're still living a shitty lifestyle on TRT. You'll feel good for several weeks and back to feeling shitty. Running even at the high end of the reference range is not good for you long term. That 1000-1100 high end range you're doing damage to your body. Because they see it's in the normal they think it's ok. No, bring that down a few hundred points, that's more realistic. But no, we're the dumb ones trying to give advice. Fuck em, let em learn the hard way lol.

Probably because of my algorithm but in a few minutes time I saw all these advertisements.

JEX30Sex's picture

Yep that's basically it. I'm not sure but I think I got a good tune for how most of these young bros are. There are those in the gym (especially now that it's summer) who will smile and make eye contact and you give the nod or the proverbial thumbs up and then there's the others who are constantly mean mugging, glancing around constantly and you see they aren't happy that big papa is in the gym looking older and bigger. They stay for 20 minutes and don't break a sweat while I'm over here soaked in sweat like I just climbed out of a pool. Could just be bravado but they always have on the stringer and looking every where and doing everything but focusing on there work out, they also bring in the entourage of smaller cronies. Just my observation.

DeeMan's picture

Lol that's a damn shame. Man I'll say this, we talk shit but to have all this available, whether its juice or sorry ass sarms is still mindboggling bro seriously. By the way I never used sarms and never will. Lol no reason too! And about this post, man I just finally got tired of the foolishness. Lil kid at my gym popping orals like its fking skittles!

ONESICK's picture

I've tried them on several occasions to see what they're about. Though they're pretty comparable to some gear they're not without side effects. They can even be pricier than gear as well. Depending on your wants, you can achieve some decent results off of them. At the trade off is the recovery is just as bad as gear. If you aren't smart about it then you'll lose all of your gains. They will 100% crash your natural Test levels. The ads for sarms can be ridiculous. Claiming no side effects. Shake my fucking head, yes there is. Some can be more harsh than gear.

DeeMan's picture

Yeah when I first heard about sarms that was the big thing..all the results of steroids without the side effects! Yeah right! I won't even think about using sarms. Lol juice was there in the beginning for me when I was paying $100 for 10ml vial of testosterone lol and now it's still there at dirt cheap prices so I gotta keep it loyal. Man those were the days. I could of sworn those 10ml vials would turn me into Arnold. Hell I think at one point I might of even slept with a vial by my side, I pretty much worshipped those vials when I first started using gear lol.Those days..wow!

ONESICK's picture

I no longer use sarms, I agree with you. Definitely not worth the money when good ol' juicy juice is dirt cheap now. Man it for sure is addicting to be on gear. When I was young n dumb I was a little reckless with it but the older I got I decided to step back a bit. Started to really research what it was I wanted to do. That I didn't take any gear for a few years. Learning what I could in the meantime before getting plans in place what I wanted to do and achieve. These kids now see a youtube video or their favorite influencer on Insta and follow them blindly. Not realizing these guys lie like a mother fucker and not tell the truth about gear.

DeeMan's picture

You said it. Lie on top of a lie on top of another lie. What's that guy..Mike O Hearn or something? Man please!

simonmagus84's picture

Compulsive instant gratifying generation. I had to run to T-mobile yesterday and the young man assisting me couldn’t hold a conversation, make eye contact and was extremely jittery. I don’t think he was on anything, it’s just their attention span is nil. They want results instantly. I asked for another representative to assist.

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smoke1more's picture

Probably geeked up on adderall, I have worked with plenty of these guy 20-30 something can not focus for shit because they are tweaked the fuck out on big pharma meth. This one kid ex heroin addict so they give him a script for adderall to bring him up and weed script to mellow him out wtf. This is the protocol not let’s find out why you are addicted and help you stay away from the shit, nope let’s substitute one addiction for your new one.

simonmagus84's picture

I really think it’s overstimulation on electronics. Total social awkwardness, no eye contact or personality. Total drone bro.

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DeeMan's picture

And I've personally seen how that adderall can make a person act. My ex had zero attention span, so you're absolutely right. For me it was one of my worst relationships ever! Never again.

Big Paul's picture

Crazy nowadays the youth are bombarded with body images constantly through social media how men should look or won't be diserable to the opposite sex if they don't look a certain way.

People's self worth is now attached to how they look or how they want to be perceived.

I know from my own experience changing the outside through juicing doesn't fix the inside. Seems everybody is chasing the outside look its the culture of modern society if you look good your more diserable and worth more.

Wasn't much social media when I was in my early twenties or hadnt I knowledge of eroids so i made lots of mistakes tren etc in early cycles.

Wealth of information out there today for the youth and it's crazy the cycles there jumping on having the information at there finger tips to the negative effects of certain steroids.

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smoke1more's picture

Fuck social media, this is the only social platform I am on. In my opinion it’s one of the biggest problems humanity is faced with. The amount of just straight up ignorance is mind blowing. I am severely allergic to idiots and stupid ass people so I stay off social media as it just aggravates the fuck out of me anymore. These kids need stop beating their ducks looking to get paid and use those hand for something more constructive. Video game, porn crazed, lazy fucking idiots and that who will be running shit soon enough. We are in some serious trouble.

Bill1976's picture

I don’t have Facebook or tick tick Snapchat Twitter. Not one social media platform. Just this.

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robb's picture

The youth of today think rimming a girls asshole with your tonge is part of foreplay sex. I skip past to the main attraction. It's nauseating to watch. Internet porn isn't an instruction guide to sex lol.
As far as I'm aware it was always a homosexual thing.
The taste of shit...I'd be mentally scared for life.

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

Well yeah now with social media all these younger and newer body builders see all these people online that are crazy big and look good and they want to take the fastest route to try and look like them. And they look up what's the strongest steroids and that's what they choose to do not caring about consequences but I can't talk myself because when I was younger(I'm still decently young at 30 but) I did a lot of things not caring about the consequences and got in a lot of trouble and wasn't caring about my health either when I used to do drugs. And also a lot of the younger people are abusing steroids because they are trying to replace feeling good from using drugs.

Catalyst's picture

“In reality if you don't have the genetics you could use a gallon of gear for a lifetime and STILL NOT look anything close to that Mr. Olympia”

And that is the real truth. For most of us mere mortals, the genetics just aren’t there. Not even close.

I’m in no position to lecture, but we should never lose sight of what we’re doing comes with risk. Last October one of my oldest friends passed away from heart failure almost certainly caused by LVH from years of steroid use. 43 years old and one of life’s genuine good guys, no longer here to see his kids grow up. We take risks, all of us, but let’s try and keep those risks minimal and not add to the list.

DeeMan's picture

Alot of people just don't wanna hear that the genetics aren't there. They Not trying to hear it lol. As if they can force great genetics upon themselves by using grams of gear lol! Nope! And you are absolutely right, we all are taking risks. Some more than others yet still all are taking risks.

JEX30Sex's picture

Unfortunately these young men are going to do what they are going to do. Darwin ya know. The ones that listen are the ones that matter really. You cannot fill a cup with knowledge if that cup is already full. Personally I'm terrified of PEDs other than Test. Injectables that is. If the goal isn't to become an IFBB pro and let's face it, it's usually just to be bigger there really isn't much of an argument to taking anything else. It hurts my heart to see our lil bros doing stupid shit but it is what it is. When you are young and don't have anyone depending on you life is an open field. We all felt like Neo from The Matrix at some point in our young lives. The reality of life will come crashing down on there heads and it will be too much for some.

Zalewski's picture

I have always said it’s a matter of perspective that ruins us. If you take steroids, train hard, and eat properly, for 10-15 years, you will be fucking impressive, but may still be nothing close to IFBB pros, or at least the ones whom are competitive. AND THATS FINE. Guess what, some motherfuckers need to be happy with their work. If you can’t be happy unless you’re literally the best in the fucking world, you will be a sad bastard.

If you do have the ability to take pride in your effort and the ability to appreciate how far you’ve come, you can do this long term, with effort and be happy with yourself. Don’t let yourself be consumed by unrealistic expectations

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SuperBrish's picture

Greezy baby faced sarms goblins.

thahulk2014's picture

Yeah there are young boys at the gym around here running tren only cycles and still in school. I can’t believe what Im seeing. I mean shit I just started trt at 37yo.

DeeMan's picture

At 37 huh? I just can't put a finger on it hulk. I can't also get that dudes face out of my head when I caught him in the gym restroom earlier today popping pills. I mean this kid was bold with it.

smoke1more's picture

You are not lying DeeMan, idk WTH these guys are thinking blasting the amounts of gear and advanced cycles on their 1st,2nd,3rd etc run. You can spot these guys. They usually have done little to no research, usually don’t have their diets dialed in. May say I want to run tren to lose some weight. You know what I am saying. I pay these guys no mind, I tend to think Darwinism, lol and keep it moving.

DeeMan's picture

Yeah I remember a member here awhile back mentioned how he wanted to use tren in order to loose weight. I was shocked man. And just a few days ago a member mentioned using one of the MOST TOXIC ORALS around just for energy purposes. He claimed that one fourth of that oral was ok to take every day.

smoke1more's picture

Scary shit man, but these kids today are completely clueless. They just want the likes so damn bad, they will do anything .

DeeMan's picture

Their slogan is....LIVE FAST DIE YOUNG. And that's totally believable too. A youngster told me that.

PhillyMelvin_Smelvin's picture

Die young, die big--dianabol.... thats the shit i hear from kids laughing about it at the gym... But i must say it beats the hell out of 15yr olds talking about doing meth and playing window nintendo for 3days straight.

smoke1more's picture

Lmao window Nintendo, it really is sad though. My old neighborhood is ate up with meth and heroin. Idk either way they are destroying their bodies. Kids run these extreme cycles not good.

DeeMan's picture

Really? This is the world we living in.

DeeMan's picture

So look..one reason I decided to post this. Long story short, today after working out I go to restroom and I saw some teenager, maybe around early 20s, but he was pulling out what seemed to be a pill box that was from a known brand that I've used in the past. At this point I can see him but he doesn't see me. This dude then pops pill after pill after pill and when he pops the last one he looks back at me. These tabs were in a foil strip so probably some type of oral I bet. Anyways he runs off scared.

Nattyboomba's picture

Agreed. I think that one of the things catalyzing this kind of mindset & how PEDs are perceived is social media and the like. So many “influencers” are completely cavalier about how they speak about gear & the lifestyle, ignoring the potential consequences. There is no shortage of pinkdicks co-signing any & all foolishness, slinging terrible advice, while disguising themselves as fitness experts. And the quantity of older men (45 and up) placing themselves on “TRT” because they heard from more than 1 source that it’s healthy to push 200mg test weekly and it’ll solve all of there woes. And then there’s TRT clinics and tele-docs that prescribe 150-200mg weekly which only fuels others to hop on the train.

Greg's picture

It's all the advertising on TV. After a week of 4 hours of sleep and hard days at work. Zoning out on the couch at the end of the day, partly nodding off. Within an hour of TV programing, 15 minutes of which is pharma commercials, I'm convinced I need Viagra, TRT, and a hearing aid.

Nattyboomba's picture

No question about that. The non stop campaign of Pharma and tele doc ads pushing the idea that if we just took this pill or that, we would be finally achieve our potential & all problems would be solved.

Drexyl's picture

At least Eric Estrada stopped selling “retirement” land in Florida, and thank whatever god you believe in Sylvester Stallones mom stopped with her psychic hotline.

Hunkstrum's picture

If we could only get Tom Selleck to stop scamming old ladies into reverse mortgages.

DeeMan's picture

He can hide a damn house inside that mustache for sure!

DeeMan's picture

Hey Stallone is that LEGEND! Gotta show him respect sir lol! Nah I saw him on a talk show a few days ago and he looks damn good for being 75 plus years old. He looks like he is in mid to late 50's. We know he's had numerous things done. Still looks good though.

Nattyboomba's picture

He looks the best he’s ever looked, I would say. He’s is the biggest he’s ever been. Whatever he & the Rock are doing, it’s working. Getting older and bigger every day

DeeMan's picture

Yessir...you better believe it! Hope I live to see that age and look as good. Legend!

Drexyl's picture

https://youtu.be/9M57VMz29Ac

The “Stallone solution”. This stuff had to be awkward at thanksgiving dinner right?

DeeMan's picture

That damn Sly

Drexyl's picture

Oh absolutely my bro, Sly is solid, but I’m old enough to remember this happened. There’s no Mandela effect here, it happened. Mama dukes took her shot at fame. Remember, if you click this link, it cannot be unseen

https://youtu.be/A9IB7YQtbLg

JakeKO's picture

Oh man, Mom went wrong right there, LOL

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JakeKO's picture

Sly is the man! One of my childhood inspirations. Grew up in Rocky, and at 25 years old, me an ten of my friends went to see Rocky 4 on opening night tripping on mescaline. 15 years old, SMH, I can’t imagine my kids doing this shit. Well, anyway, that was a life changing experience. Saw that needle go into Drago’s arm, and thought, awe, what a cheater! Meanwhile, Sly was probably running his tightest cycle ever. Lol, the shit we believed when we were young, LOL

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Badgoat1's picture

I had a 300 test level at like 22 but still didn't touch gear until I was 30. And it still took a long time to learn the value of food and days off busted my ass in the gym but never got stronger, or any leaner in the gut and bigger every where else. Now I'm running the lowest drugs I've ever run and getting better results with eating better. Thanks to all the guys in here

Drexyl's picture

Early 40’s for me, and a touch above 300. But reasonable treatment from a Dr got me back on track. Granted I do believe that the 290 threshold for treatment in my network is now, some people function just fine on that. I didn’t and I was above that level. We’re all different, but I think we can all agree keeping yourself at 1500ngdl or more all the time will eventually catch up and have very serious consequences. But, I’m a to each their own kind of guy. We all make decisions.