posted Mon, 02/15/2016 - 17:48
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NPC shows - Classic Physique
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Has anybody recently been to a NPC show with the new Classic Physique division? What are you thoughts on the new division? Was it a worthwhile addition to the show or did it just prolong the night? How did the guys look?
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Just got word from the NPC that they will now be allowing crossovers from the classic physique division.
What are your thoughts on that?
I figured eventually they were going to allow crossovers because it is more money for them. Personally, I am not in favor of it. I think you need to declare yourself as either, physique, classic or BB and stick with it. I learned my lesson the first time when I also did physique and BB. None of that physique business for me anymore, BB all the way. If someone can meet the classic weight and height requirements that is probably a better division for them. I wouldn't make the weight restriction without sacrificing some quality mass so strictly BB for me. I am going to check out a couple of shows here in the next month or two so I can get a better take on the classic division.
i went to watch a friend in a local show that had classic physique, very unimpressive. the "favorite classic pose" is a JOKE.
Physique guys can get away with only working pecs and abs. A guy could lift for a year, get lean, and compete.
Wow
Do you really believe what you wrote above? Sounds like a loada bollocks to me. The usual ignorance i see here all the time when it comes to opinions on physique.
Yes if you go to regional qualifiers you will see a few who fall into your view of physique but these are a small minority deluded by their fresh gains but overall most serious physique competitors train like bodybuilders but obviously using lower weight.
Mp859A ton of physique guys are going to do classic now. Just gives people more of a reason to not have to put on mass. Bodybuilding is what started it all. The people who can't achieve a bodybuilding physique want to feel like they still have a chance at winning something. I personally feel it's the same as giving little kids "participation" trophies and everyone having to be a winner. When in reality, you don't get a trophy in life for being average.
Not a fan of it but that's just my opinion too many classes. We got enough people doing shows who shouldn't be ... this is going to bring more. I think they should have stricter rules and better guidelines for the classes we have now. It's all a money game anyways more entries and more revenue. Instead of guys working harder they can downgrade and conquer. Sounds shity but that's just my opinion. Don't want to type up a ton of shit and give a ton of reasons. Men's physique or classic bodybuilding I think they should pick one and be done with it.
I don't know if this is maybe an attempt by the NPC to try and get away from the slin gut and just overall mass look (I'm sure money is behind it also), but everyone is starting to look the same. Big guts and big muscles but no one is really unique anymore. I agree that if that is what they are trying to get away from they need to start judging physiques accordingly instead of adding a new division. If people want to place well they have to start presenting physiques that the judges are looking for. It is a shame that someone with a big slin gut and relatively little conditioning is placing better then someone who has perfect conditioning but doesn't have the so called mass in my opinion.
It will get out of control before you know it. There are physique guys running heavy shit and heavy diuretics too just as there will be classic bodybuilding guys doing the same some running slin also. Men's bodybuilding has nothing to do with the current situation with slin abuse. Rules and guidelines do. If judges keep putting them in first and it continues to be the freak show with how much mass you can carry, along with guys who can't practice the vacuum pose and stay tight during transitions from pose to pose, nothing will change. It all starts with Jim manion and the judging criteria.
I think having Mens physique and classic bodybuilding is a fucking joke. One wears board shorts and does 4 poses the other will wear trunks and do 6? That's the difference.
The organization is a joke. They want money and athletes who are social media whores.
Nothing will change if the ambassadors and judges keep it going the way it has been. Guys are going to do what wins to keep winning and if mass monsters are it than it will continue as long as judges award the placings.
StevebThe board shots thing is weird. If you're going to compete in that then why even workout your legs.
Many dont.
I could not agree more brother Tony! I love the sport of bodybuilding! I've been following it for forty years!
The 70s, 80s, and even into the nineties produced consistently great physiques! It has become what was once a display of human art into a freak show and now a circus! And as you stated its all about the money! Membership, entry fees ect. The organizations have made a mockery of the sport and this saddens me! As far as people doing show who shouldn't be and the need for stricter rules and better guidelines, well I'll cut to the chase and cite some examples!
http://youtu.be/fkmVGDy7YNY
http://youtu.be/aMXfcgOaDlw
Lmao you found Steve! He looks like he needs to take a shit while up on stage.
Lol brother G! :))
When we were in Jersey last Aug for the wife's show she said "I wonder if Steve will be there trying to give me advice" lol. Thankfully we didn't encounter him.
Lol brother G! I'm sure he can be irritating, but I'm certain you and your lovely wife give him your time respectfully! It's just in your nature to do so!
StevebSo your wife still talks about me to this day. I didn't realize I made such an impression. I had already forgotten, it was nothing memorable.
Was your intent to be a disrespectful douchebag?
What exactly are you implying here homeboy?
Steveb.
I've never written anything to you or about you before. But for some reason you wanted to talk about me in a negative way. You're the one who said your wife talks about me. And that is never a good way to try and insult someone. Was your intent to be a disrespectful douchebag? So was I supposed to not say anything back and let you keep going?
Dude why in the hell would my wife be talking anything about you? Did you really think I was referring to you Steve? You must be the only Steve on the planet OR you're just trying to bust balls here. My thinking is that you are and just trying to piss me off, which you have accomplished. At this point I'm suprised that brains generates enough power to type your shit on here.
Watch the video and you tell me what's up.
StevebI'm the only Steve on eroids. If you weren't talking about me I am sorry. What I said was fucked up.
And yes I am dumb, so dumb I'm probably related to Readyman.
I hope you watched the video..even so why in the hell would you ever make a statement like that about someones wife? That's some hardcore shit right there and you and everybody else knows it.
FR accepted
GuitarPlayer is one of the nicest, most humble brothers in our community! He was in no way referring to you!
He was referring to one of the clueless competitors whose name happens to be Steve in a video I posted!
I think you owe him an apology!
Thank you Theo, I hold you at the highest regard around here. Clueless competitor's and clueless posters are abound.
I think he was talking about Steve, the dude in the YouTube videos.
Everybody catch your breath for a second. Obviously it is a misunderstanding.
I can't believe your letting him have his out.
You mean it isn't completely obvious? Knucklehead Steve didn't watch the video and thought it was a shot at him.So then he mistakingly retaliates. So is it better to clear the air or is it better to sit back and have these guys go to war with each other when it was all a misunderstanding?
Yea, I am comfortable with my words...
Nah nah thats the peepee dance for example.
StevebSomeone mentioned Steve, Readyman must chime in.
I actually have a hack into the eroid server that alerts me everytime your name comes up.
StevebShit I thought you were just hitting the track link on my profile every 5 minutes.
No.....that would be gay.
StevebGayer
Really? To me its a small effort for marginal entertainment.
who is entertaining who???
Look up^^^^^^^^^several posts.
StevebYou're welcome
So clearly you are not so dumb that you thaught anyone was referring to you up there so why make an ass of yourself like that?
StevebIn the past I must have said something hurtful to make him pay so much attention to me. I have no idea what, but if I did hurt his feelings in the past I truly am not sorry.
wow steve, you said something hurtful to someone ??? this i cannot believe. say it isn't so
The NPC show I'm doing will have classic physique. I'm tempted to do novice BB, and crossover to classic physique. I'd just have to drop a few more pounds than I was initially intending to.
I think I read somewhere that if you did classic that you couldn't crossover to BB. At least at the same show anyway. You could do classic at 1 show but enter BB at another but not both within the same show.
Thanks for the heads up, i didn't catch that on anything I've read, but there's not much info out there about it. Glad you told me, I was going to send my money in tomorrow. One category is probably enough for me to try and handle my first show.
i think they are allowing cross overs for the first few years of the division. usually at any local show you can cross over regardless, its at national level shows that cross overs have been against the rules since nationals when nicole wilkins won overalls in fitness and figure in 2007.
but for the first year or two i believe they are gonna let guys cross between bodybuilding and classic or physique and classic at national level shows.
Call or email your contact for the show and ask to be sure. I just remember reading something, I think on the NPC website, that for 2016 there would be no crossovers if entered in that division.
Bodybuilding is to me some crazy shit as i am coming at all this from a different direction but nothing really compares to it as far as intricacy and nuance when it comes to your body being tuned to a certain thing.
I just sow the all thing at the muscle Evo npc in Santa Clara, everybody looked like shit! !! In fact I'm doing the contra as a warm up in classic phisique to see if I can take the show in classic phisique in the contra then instead of bodybuilding at the usas I'm doing classic phisique, went an email to npc guys, they said I'm alredy qualified for bodybuilding, for classic phisique to enter the usas I just after do an npc national qualifier in classic phisique that's it, I'm 5,6 and my cut would 170, I think I'd look sick at 3% body fat, veins, v tape, small weist, a nice color, some posing oil and some good old ed corner style posing, thinking of trying to get my pro card in classic phisique, also looking at what I sow I probably just could of walked on stage with a tan and oil and maybe I would of took that show...