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I have been racking my brain on what to run this winter for a bulk and here is what I came up with so far. I decided to go back to probably my favorite compound which is 1-TC (aka DHB). I have just been so impressed with this compound the last couple of times I have ran it that I really want to give it some due justice by running a nice long solid bulk cycle with it.
1-18 400mg Test C
1-18 600mg 1-TC
1-18 75mg Provi
1-18 50mg Adrol pulsed 2wk on 2 off
1-18 1000mg Metformin taken on the off weeks of adrol
4-18 12.5mg of Asin
500mg TUDCA throughout cycle
(possibly 150mg/wk of Deca to help with mobility issues) lol
Back to TRT at end of cycle
As far as cals and macros go I will be hitting a ratio of 30/40/30 with cals starting off at 500 above TDEE and jumping to 750 above on the weeks with the metformin. After the first 6 weeks or so I will see what type of quality gains I am getting and possibly adjust the cals to 750 above with the adrol weeks and 1000 above with the metformin weeks. My rationale with the metformin here to help with insulin sensitivity since I plan on keeping cals high throughout this bulk which is a fairly long cycle.
I have an 18 wk cycle planned out since I will be doing 3 different 6wk blocks for my training. One of those blocks is going to be a leg specialization program since I really need to bring those up if I want to stay competitive and move into the light heavy weight division.
These are my initial thoughts so far so I am open to any suggestions on how to tweak this.
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Like it. I like the pulse and off week metforman I do the same with glipizide. For me bulking I up test but hey if ain't broken.
You know me bro....... i prefer big anabolic compounds for bulking hard lol
that stack right there is low anabolics and massive androgens................ i would be more swayed to use something like that on the run up to a serious cutting stack
if it works for you though thats fine................. due to being low anabolic i wouldnt bother with AI it could be counter productive.......... estrogen may give you the anabolic edge thats missing here imo
I'll be keeping a detailed log...cals/macros/weight/BF%/lbm etc to keep track of progress. I'll be getting some bloodwork to adjust AI so I can keep that estro on the top end. Upping the test seems like a viable option if I am not pleased with the progress. I think that would probably be option #1 over upping the 1-TC instead. It seems like I am so used to cutting that I am not used running big anabolic stacks. That is where I need the help, cutting is easy, bulking seems much more difficult to me. Probably should be the other way around but for me it doesn't seem to be.
300 SavageMan 75 mgs of provi a day.. do you have hair? If i was to run that for 18 weeks..I would be as bald as an eagle..LOL. 50mgs a day wreaks havoc on my hairline..
No problems with provi but mast gives me one hell of a bald spot on the back of my head
300 SavageCool..ya masteron screws my hair up also..Anyways.... wish you big solid gains on your cycle..
my suggestion to everybody regarding bad effects from certain compounds is simply do not use them..... find something on a par that works well without bad sides.
That's what it's all about. I've ran few cycles where the compounds just didn't agree with me and I made shit for progress. So I only run test and nandrolone for bulks and I don't cut much so I haven't found that perfect combo yet but when I get to the size I want I'll figure it out. But test deca/npp dbol never has once failed me.
300 SavageYes..NPP ,, Is 1 great compound for myself also..
It's nice when you figure out what you respond best to. Nothing sucks more then getting on cycle and finding this drug murders my appetite, causes this side, that side etc. I have no interest in experimenting anymore, don't wanna waste time id much rather run what I know works well for me and spend the time making gains instead of countering sides and shit and waste time not making gains. Npp is probably my favorite bulking drug, hell with low carbs you can cut with it and stay pretty damn dry and extremely full, then with some var it can really create a nice look. Don't wanna get carried away but with some mast it could really be a great cutting stack.
thanks.
Looks fun, bro..
I like it, personally i would start the 1-test at a level where you are comfortable to up it around week 10 or so. Gains really slow around that point despite upping cals, changing training etc due to the large increase in myostatin. So people dont have this issue, others do and make the biggest gains the first 8-10 weeks, others just gain nice and steadily for as long as theyre on. Me I start to stall around that time and an oral usually helpls, the drol should keep the gains coming but just incase you dont wanna keep stressing your body for minimal returns. wanna keep that risk reward ratio the right way. Ive never ran provi at 75, only 50, might give that a shot this next cycle. Im on my honeymoon in the bahammas and i waked into the pharmacy and bought some good old pharm grade provi no rx needed lol. wish i woulda bought 10 boxes the price was pretty good. You know your body best but for bulks my body likes test, if it was me id be running my test a bit higher, but again like i said you know your body best and if thats where you like it then keep it.But for me alot of test and alot of food gets the job done.
The 1-TC seems like a fairly slow builder until it really kicks in. The longest I ran it was for 16 weeks during a prep but that is a totally different world compared to a bulk obviously. The first time I ran it was for 14 wks and everything seemed to keep going solid up until them. I'll definitely keep the time frame in mind if things just seem to be stalling and call it good. 18 wks can be a long time.
Do you mind giving us the layout of the leg specialization program?
Ill probably put it up in the training section sometime in the near future here.
TiptoptimProvi is such a great compound on so many levels. I have two brand that are hand down the best around I take 100mg a day broke into two dose and I'm go to go.
We should all be taking notes on how it's done by you Makwa! Only thing I might say is up the test half way through the blast, say at week 9 to squeeze some more gains. Then again if 400 test is working why up it, your prep photos you looked 3D and grainy!
You know it might be an interesting experiment to bump the test up to say 750mg at some point to really see what happens. What I have noticed with the 1-TC though is that it is such a receptor hog and I tend to have more aromatization on the same dose of test than I would if not running it. I am bumping up the 1-TC about 100mg higher than I have ran it before so I think I may have a real receptor hog going on and just end up with to much aromatization than what it is worth if I start to run test higher. I like staying fairly dry even when bulking. What I may eventually do somewhere along the line is maybe try test as the primary compound and supplement with a little bit of 1-TC, something on the lines of like 750mg sust with 300mg 1-TC. I have ran that dose of sust with adrol before so that would be interesting to see what a little bit of 1-TC would add to that cycle.
Testrogen_PropC...I like it how you have it set up now personally. The more time that goes by the more i feel like moderate amounts of test with higher amounts of the other anabolics is the way to go on a cycle or multi-compound blast.
To me, when mixed with other compounds higher doses of test really seems to have a ceiling effect as far as benefits. High dose test really only seems to benefit me if that's all I'm running.
This cycle seems perfect to me, if anything I personally would consider bumping up the 1TC a hair towards the middle or end of the blast if you end up wanting that little extra umph.
I have never really ran high dose test along with other compounds. Typically if I am stacking my test stays around 400-500mg/wk and l like to let the other compound do all the heavy lifting in the cycle. Highest test I have ever ran was sust at 750mg with just some adrol. it might be interesting to see how bumping up the 1-TC might effect things. We'll see how the cycle is going and make that decision then.
Testrogen_PropC...Gotcha brother. I definitely feel like that's the way to do it. When im running a really strong/receptor hog compound and raise the test really high mid cycle all I get is more negative side effects lol. Which is also why im really starting to believe the whole high tren/low test= better gains/lower sides thing.
It just really seems like the more test floating around in your body that doesn't bind to the androgen receptors turns into negative side effects lol. On this last blast I raised my test to a gram while running tren. It was no bueno. BUT- if I run a gram of test by itself as a blast, I feel amazing.
I'll vote for bumping up the 1TC, I didn't even think about that!
Looks good fella. I like the idea with the metformin and switching the calories and as you know I am a fan of drol pulsing. One question - why 75mg of provi. Seems high for only 400mg of test c?
The provi was one of my question marks here. Provi doesn't do a darn thing to me for estro control so I am not worried about it crashing estro or anything. What I was kind of thinking here is to dial the test down a little bit but really try to hammer boosting the free test up with some additional provi. I don't know, I might be a little off base on that reasoning but that is what I was thinking anyway. Usually I feel pretty good on 50mg so I might just stick with that.
Gotcha. If you run the higher dose keep us posted. Now if only a U.K or EU source would stock 1-test that would be great. Been searching high and low for a year now and nothing. You guys over the pond at least have a couple of reliable sources for it.
My source for it was originally from the UK. Now it seems to have disappeared from there and is all in the States now.
Bloods will tell where you need to be and where you'd like to be...50 is good for that much test...75 could bring on the shine...
It is pretty shiny already so this may help brighten it up even more
Like how this looks Mak. I always pulse anadrol as well. How's the pip with the 1TC?
I have never had any issues with the pip especially since the test C will be mixed in the barrel with it. The 1-TC I have is 250mg/ml.
How many times a week are you pinning it?
What I like about this is I can pin just 2x/wk and keep the volume at 2ml or under. I never pin more than 2ml at a time, even in glutes.
Yeah me either. 1-TC is one of the few compounds that I've yet to run. Good luck with your bulkier!