posted Wed, 03/14/2012 - 04:51
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-3 Don't you just hate it when.....
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...you hear in passing in a gym you train at that some 12 year old (actually 23, but it's young to me) is on (1) 800 mg of test cyp a week (2) 400 mg of deca a week and (3) 2 Anapolon 50's a day (no less).
...I actually went as far as asking the gym owner (decent fella) to have a quiet word. He already had done apparently to no avail. All very sad.
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TxBigBoyYou've already heard it from everyone else but you should of confronted him yourself if you are concerned. To be honest it's not really your place to have any opinion about this "kid" because you don't know his reasoning behind his use. Now while I'm totally against younger people using steroids I myself am only 3 years older than the "kid" you speak of and I've been diagnosed with a test deficiency. You should make an effort to talk to this person and figure out if they have the knowledge to run cycles like this cause he might just surprise you.
Ravishing you're either one VERY insecure man or female. What confident man would snitch behind someone else back when it doesnt effect him LOL. I bet he will reply with me being a school kid.
The question is why didn't you confront him directly? If you're so concerned why would you put that responsibility on someone else?
I think thats what the other posters are trying to figure out. Maybe you simply don't like the fact that instead of waiting till he is 30 to use, he is using at 23.
So maybe it isn't concern that you have for him.
Baaaaaaaaam!
You dont snitch on an adult bro. At 23 if you commit a crime you go to adult prison, you can vote like an adult,you could even have been fighting wars and killing people for a while by that age. Thats a grown ass man. I understand your concern but when it concerns adults you ALWAYS appraoch a man "man to man" first. Thats just basic man law. If you had seen 15yr old Arnold in the back pining and popping dbol like skittles then yea, call his moms up but 23 is a grown ass man. You broke man etiquette and G Code. Nothing wrong with being concerened, where Im from thats exactly what the big homies do, look out for the young bloods and try to put them on game. Kinda like how everybody looks out for irishlifter. But you NEVER snitch on an GROWN ASS MAN especially about illegal activity that you yourself are involved in. Thats the WORST kind of snitch. Dont stop caring just handle that shit better next time, if you step to a man like a man he'll respect you a lot more. As of now dude will have ZERO respect for you and wont be very likely to take any advice of yours in the future. Why should he? Did ANYTHING good come from this snitching episode? Did dude wake up like "eureka" and change his evil steroid ways? Hell no! You just stuck a snitch label on your forehead for the fun of it and accomplished nothing. Im sure you'll try and come up with some silly justification but nothing justifies snitching on an adult for something you yourself do.
Thank you. You are absolutely correct. Just so you know, he will probably attack your age, your intelligence, or he may point out that he has TWO mater's degrees.
Thank god for other people like you! People like him are the reason that I have to look over my shoulder and barely whisper in the gym.
lol, i dont have degrees yet but Im a junior working on 2 at the moment. as for intelligence i have the paperwork here to prove my IQ is far above most people and im willing to compare test results with anybody, im certified lol.. but thats all neither here nor there, even a dumbass knows not to snitch on an adult lol. down here (down south) EVERY mother teaches her sons especially that "nobody likes a tattle tale" at like 5yrs old rofl. even sunday school teachers dont allow that shit here lol
Your IQ can't compare to his, obviously. See, if you were smarter than him you wouldn't disagree with him, you would know that he was in the right and you would tell him so.. You probably have professors like him...I did. It makes perfect sense...
I agree with you on the southern pride. We may have our share of problems but I do feel as if many of us are trained properly on how to treat others. I remember being told about tattling as a kindergartner.
For the record folks..it's ALSO his first cycle AND he can't yet bench 2 plates (20 kg)a side. He also weighs in at the grand total of 12 stone 2 lbs at about 6 ft 1 ( -ish guestimate). The gym owner is a MATE (and experienced bodybuilder) who has everyone's best interests at heart (in his gym). And you don't have to be the bightest penny in the box to understand my motives here.
I also think they're wouldn't be many in that gym who would fancy taking me out back and giving me a beating. Gave me laugh though LOL.
Ok, your are a snitch who thinks that he is doing the right thing...why not become a cop, or a bobby in your case? You keep on being a self-righteous snitch and I will be here keepin' it the fuck REAL.
comparing a snitch to a cop, thats a little extreme.. ronnie coleman was a cop and i dont think i would catergorize him as a snitch let alone say that to him. But you are right ol boy was snitching.
If he ever arrested anyone for having illegal drugs, then he was certainly the worst type of hypocrite, if not a snitch.
I would think that cops are the ultimate snitches. At least MOST cops have the decency to be well marked, so if you tell them anything incriminating, you are kind of asking for it.
I understand where you both are coming from. Maybe you should talk to the kid yourself and explain he doesn't need all of that at his age, especially a first cycle. Also, make sure whatever source you heard it from is accurate
I don't disagree with his motive, just his method. I am with you.
The source for the cycle was the owner when he tried talking to the Kid himself. Perhaps I should just bite the bullet and ring his folks?
For the not too bright pennies out there, I'm of course JOKING.
So the owner said to you, hey you know youngboy he is running this this and this. You then asked him to talk to him to not do it, he said he already did? That shit doesn't sound right. Not pointing fingers but do you think the gym owner is actually the supplier? It almost sounds like he was bragging the boy is taking that much. All in all man, you are smart and have a degree in psychology! I think YOU would be the better one to go and talk to the kid! Let us know how it goes. If youngboy is cool enough maybe offer to take him out for a post workout meal and get shit straight. Teach him and see where his head is. This gym owner doesn't sound all the way right
I am with you. I would like to see him tell that story to Judge Judy. It doesn't make sense. It seems to be a feeble attempt to say that he is not a narc.
You must think that you are the only bright penny around. I am smart, but most other people are very smart and capable of understanding. People are smart in their own way and just because they do not agree with me doesn't diminish their intelligence in my eyes. I believe that you understand what I mean because, after all, you are a bright penny! Good for you!
I completely understand you. I also think your personal 'code of ethics' shouldn't apply here and I'm amazed that you think it basically overrides everything and anything.
I will just restate my response to your post below:
I get the issue. You are a nice and caring individual who thinks that he can help a young man. Could you not have handled it another way? Did you have to tell the owner? Snitching is snitching. At least you didn't go to the authorities. I will give you that.
I would say the new issue is the question of whether it is ever ok to tell on a grown man because you do not agree with what he is putting in his body.
I amazed that your school-kid mentality overrides all common sense in this matter. I would have hoped there would be more concern for the kid here.
I just finished my master's degree, so I guess I do have a "school-kid" mentality. I have concern for a lot of people but I do not snitch on them. You could have shown your concern, and shown the young man that you had concern, without telling on him. You have a good strategy though. If someone is doing something that you don't like, just snitch on them. If someone doesn't agree with your methods, just call them a "kid" or tell them that they have a "school-kid" mentality.
I've got 2 fella - an MSc and an MBA - for the record. You can't learn common sense though in your case LOL.
Part of common sense is knowing that there are people just as smart and even smarter than yourself. I don't doubt your intelligence or your common sense. You are a very intelligent snitch with two master's degrees. I will not reply to you any further. I do not want you to trouble yourself trying to understand my rudimentary babblings. Best of luck and please stop snitching. This is not a good site for a snitch.
Maybe when you get a bit older you'll get a grasp of the issue here. Maybe not. And where the hell did you get a Masters from - just wondering based upon your 'argument' style?
I get the issue. You are a nice and caring individual who thinks that he can help a young man. Could you not have handled it another way? Did you have to tell the owner? Snitching is snitching. At least you didn't go to the authorities. I will give you that.
I would say the new issue is the question of whether it is ever ok to tell on a grown man because you do not agree with what he is putting in his body.
We're back to your misguided code of ethics again. Not sure that's a compelling argument - thats a nice way of saying its a very poor one.
I'm intrigued that you think 'telling' (school yard again fella) involves asking the gym owner/experienced BB to have a quiet word. I actually think I'll bow out this thread before I give you any issues. It was a Psychology MSc. Best regards, fella.
Yes. You are so very smart. You keep mentioning your very interesting combo of an MBA and a master's in psychology. I hope others here at eroids will join me in telling you how honored we are by your presence in these forums.
It is not MY CODE, it is most people's code. You just do not snitch. If you were so concerned, then why did you not use your superior mind and your training in psychology to talk to him?
Its a part of society to not snitch. Maybe we all are from different backgrounds here but if the concern is for the kid, which I assume it is. You need to talk to him. Don't give him a steroids are bad speech, bbut give him details that you yourself have gone through and what you would change if you could. Hopefully he will understand
Which one is worse, doing an advanced cycle at 23 or being very responsible with AAS and narcing out those who, YOU THINK, are not? I hope nobody ever narcs you out to the boys in blue because, THEY THINK, you are being irresponsible in your own personal choices. You may think that the owner was just going to " have a quite word" with him, but what if he had called the fuzz and they searched his car and took him to jail? Freedom is being destroyed by well-meaning people who think that it is there job to make others live as they believe is the best or most healthy. I understand that you probably meant well, but remember the old adage, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
tread-m"the fuzz" lmao...you must be my age, thats some 70's shit right there. In fact the very first radar detector that I ever saw was called a "fuzz detector". Just have not heard that term in a long time.lol
roflrofl, brought back memeories with that one. i remember my big brother spending an arm and a leg for a "fuzz detector" back in the early 80's
I am 30, but I am a student of history and I like talking to those who have more experience than me. I remember the " fuzz buster" brand, though.
AnonTalk to the kid not the owner of the gym
Happy pi day!
Do you think running any cycle at 23, 24 is bad? Or just that much? Why didn't you have a talk with the kid?
Yea, rats at our gym are taken out back and beat...
Wish I could plus 1 for ya bro.
Wish I could plus 1 for ya bro.
Yea man I'm not a dick, but 2 things I can't stand rats and thieves...
wonder if that has anything to do with the values in your profile pic hmmm lol
Haha, dont b hatin on big blue....
BBN right here
Not really. Why does it bother you what other people do?? You actually snitched lol. Pretty weak dude. Just go on your own business. All very sad of you yea.
Id assume the guy is probably friends with the gym owner and is just trying to help the kid. Ill be the first to jump on a conversations advocating the right to take anabolics at whatever age you feel ready but these young guys(guys my age) doing that much test or w/e is ridiculous. my .02
Understandable. But you really think the kid actually appreciated it. Yes people start to early. But its none of his business and neither is it yours. Instead of taking it ot the gym owner he should have started the convo with the kid himself. Funny how someone -1 me for giving my opinion. Its probably the thread starter. If you ask me he needs to grow up. -1 me cuz I dont agree with his opinion. Ok then. Besides when someone is 23 he's a grown up and can make his own decisions on whether he wants to cycle or not. If he was 16 it would have been another case.
Wasent me bro, ill plus one you for not being a down right asshole like many are on here when they dont agree with somone. I agree he should have probably did it himself but oh well. I would have told the kid hes a retard myself but i always judge wether or not somone should be doing gear and how much by there physique but its more for me to have a laugh over than tell them what to do.
Exactly lol. Thanks a lot man <3.
No problem bro, noone should be nixed for thier opinion.
'cos he's a KID taking a crackers dose. I take it you're a KID too fella - you sound like one (no offence).
Is that your decision to make? Yeah I am a 30 year old kid. I guess everyone who points out the fact that you are a snitch is a kid.