posted Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:48
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cycling for life - ultimate sacrifice
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hey guys,
It seems like every successful pro bb, to the facebook famous bb is constantly on cycle (trt). (blast,cruise)
I suppose im wondering if there are any guys on here (that are always on) that could give their experience with cycling/pct/time off results compared to trt and blasting???
thanks in advance
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Yeah, sure they "cruise" at 5 grams of test a week, 2 grams of deca, a gram of tren, and some eq
I'm on trt, I don't make gains like I did on cycle, the constant pinning sucks, I have to constantly monitor everything, blood work religiously, I would love to cycle, and be off, give my body a rest. Trt is a commitment, not a logical or reasonable choice, I hate it. I put stuff in my body all year round, can I give you positives, NO!!! Unless you're an elite pro or going to the top, medically prescribed trt/hrt patient I see no reason to even consider this question. I deal with constant skin issues, worry if my estrogen is right to please my wife, constant worry about blood pressure, cholesterol, water retention, sleep issues and emotional changes,and prostrate issues, does this sound like its worth dealing with all year round, plus the added expense of constant blood work. I would rather any day be able to cycle. And regardless if I wanted kids again or not that choice has been taken from me, I can't now, being on so long. Like I said I don't make gains like I used to, they are much harder to achieve now even running higher doses than I ever did when I cycled on a blast, also now when I blast now it effects my thyroid, so i Deal with constantly feeling tired and lethargic. Till I adjust, which takes about two or more weeks depending on what I run and it may not go away at all and I may need synthroid while blasting.
AnonTake it with a grain of salt as I've only read this in forums (here too) but supposedly using HCG can get your sperm count temporarily up if you need to get the wife preggers. Again zero experience with this personally but if kids are something you're wanting it's worth looking into.
I'm TRT also. It fucking sucks. It's been about 2.5 years I'm getting all the downsides now you're talking about worrying about my levels thyroid etc still don't know what I'm doing exactly. I'm not even 25 yet wrecked my HPTA as a teen. The gains don't come ANYTHING like they used to I've pretty much accepted I'm going to top out below 210 (when lean) unless I want to use higher dosages which I'm not willing to do. At 6'0 not all that big at all for a guy with my cycle history.
400mg tren doesn't do shit anymore for example when it used to rock my world - except give me side effects.
Moral of the story - avoid TRT at all costs and don't cycle until your body is mature enough to actually handle it. Wish I had eroids (or common sense) years ago. I know I've put the "I fucked myself up" bit out there multiple times now I apologize but it's simply in hopes that a younger guy will read it and not mess himself up.
bigwillyYou have legit reasons dog. Iv been meaning to ask ya if they ever considered prescription gh for you. I mean fuck your a prime canidate ya know.
Yes actually my endo doc wants to put me on it but my prescription coverage doesn't cover it. I've never checked the price for out of pocket cost as I assume it would astronomical
Bro, I'm 36 years old and I am religious about cycling. Time on + pct = time off. I stick with it. Sure, the first month feels like you've got a chain of kryptonite around your neck, but it gets better. Just be smart about your pct, don't cut corners on sources and and it comes back. It has always come back for me and I'm getting to that age that it shouldn't.
My philosophy is that you should cycle religiously until you finally get to that trt stage on your own but go down kicking and screaming. Don't just give up at any little sign of no recovery. At 36 I'm still holding 800+ natty. Hell no, I'm not going to give that shit up without a fight.
solid advice thanks champ
I really don't like PCT because of the hormonal crash which sometimes gives me more side effects than I had during cycle...
listen to MONSTAR though
AnonWell you experience such a hormonal spike on cycle that your natty levels will never compare to
So you got to get it in your mind that your not gonna fell the same
But
A "proper pct" is a must... most ppl dont care for pct simply because the difference in the way they feel... its all in the mind bro
I think pharma pct Products was my favorite
Anonwell for.me and most that are smart its medical reasons that we blast and cruise or (trt)
see this is for the older group of guys that can not recover from their cycles due to natural test levels being too low and feel like shit unless we suppliment with testosterone.. it is a medical condition in men called Andropause.. men test levels start declining at 30 and usually by the age 40 most are candidates for.trt... now to the kids... dont even think of doing this.. it is not smart and carries many other problems and risk... DO YOUR PCT and continue to do it as long as you can
TRT is no joke and needs to be monitored and done responsibly...
bigwillyI feel over the hill now.....thx bro,lol
AnonIts inevitable lol
Cool thanks for your input guys. Yeah really makes sense to recover while you have the ability.
And its definitely easier to see the losses post cycle and not appreciate the net gains in strength and size.