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-1 Which ORAL roids do NOT need to be taken with test?

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Not being able to find oral testosterone is destroying my plan to do a Dbol cycle. So what alternatives do I have ?

(nb: I can NOT pin. I have an extreme case of fear of needles. I have to be sedated just for a blood draw)

ONESICK's picture

Dick

Tommywh79's picture

Spray some lidocaine on your ass, wait 20 minutes and have someone do it for you. You won't feel a thing.

officer34's picture

it is an idea to forget. I made this mistake 12 years ago for fear of getting stung and I paid the consequences just after stopping the oral despite the reminders from the axis. I had to go see several doctors and endocrinologists to solve my problem. if I had stacked the oral with testosterone in support without a doubt my problems would not have happened. forget the oral especially alone. testosterone is the basis

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Pumped_'s picture

Just take straight 50mg DBol. Sounds like your gonna do it no matter what. Your just gonna look like nightcrawler from xmen with the yellow eyes.

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alekaras's picture

Lmao

DeeMan's picture

Lol. That's crazy

steroidmen's picture

stupid bitch !

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SimonM84's picture

All of them

press1's picture

Buddy I understand all these posts you are putting up, trying to get round the needle issue any way you can BUT you gotta toughen up here now. If you can't even just begin to try getting yourself use to at least seeing needles then you shouldn't be running steroids period. It seems like you have your mind totally closed off to the idea and that's that. Anything more than 1 basic cycle and you should be getting bloodwork done to check where all your levels are at, make sure liver and kidney markers are okay and nothing inside is suffering. This cannot happen if you can't even look at a needle! The simplest way to work up to a blood draw is to get yourself use to small needles by way of injecting yourself and take it from there. This is something you can change if you put your mind to it and YOU WANT TO DO IT.

ForeverFitBod1's picture

You'll be pissing those dbol gains away in the wind without a test inj base.

As stated below I think the cream or gel Testosterone would be your best bet.

My only fear of needles is when someone else is administering it. I had it before I started gear and 12 years later I still have it now. This may not be the case with you but it may help you break through that barrier also. Mind over matter.

A couple summers ago I went to the ER for severe burn on my palm from catching a runner pressure washer coming down the deck stairs. Darn muffler. Anyhow they wanted to give me a tetanus, I said sure as long as I can pin it into my shoulder. Boy did she get mad. And the answer was a no way obviously haha. What I'm saying is your anxiety may be trusted rooted.

Grab some hcg. Do some direct IMs with a slin. It's nothing but may get you started and bump your test numbers up. Good luck

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isebas76's picture

Maybe look into SARMs. Oral test with dbol would be hard on your liver but you do what you gotta do

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press1's picture

You could try some Methyl-Testosterone tablets mate - they come in 50mg tabs but not too sure on the half life. DO NOT mistake this for M1T tabs though as they are very toxic. A few UK sources sell them.

Big Tone36's picture

This guy needs to grow a set and inject with a 22g 1.5. Inch thru the delt and stop being a bitch

Diesel77's picture

Lol

Good

ForeverFitBod1's picture

Good advice brotha, I forgot about those test tabs, plus he would most likely only be doing a 4-week cycle anyway of the dbol. Maybe go into pct to try to help keep the gains.

And good looking out in the M1T. Very good looking out. That stuff is very toxic as you said. VERY

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press1's picture

I have known guy's do them for 6 weeks alongside Anavar or dianabol and be fine. Obviously you should be taking liver supps alongside it all. Any methylated hormone is going to be liver toxic and not ideal at the end of the day, but we accept this. Hell even Deca and NPP are slightly liver toxic. Ideally it would be way better for him to be doing it properly and injecting his Test hence why I've tried twice to get him to do it that way - But I don't think he will LOL

DeeMan's picture

I was speaking about longer cycles in general, but this guy would obviously cycle 4-6 weeks with 2 toxic methyl orals. Still not good, especially for a beginner. Just to clarify. Enjoy your holiday.

DeeMan's picture

Thing is my man you don't want to use methyl testosterone as a test base for a 12-16 week cycle. Way too long for a methylated toxic oral like that. Lol that's asking for trouble. I have to agree with @isebas76
In otherwords dbol wouldn't be used for that long and methyl test is just as toxic if not more, actually more now that I think. Not my opinion as this is truth. Gotta be careful. Just saying man. Pinning would be easiest route but no.

alekaras's picture

For real??

DeeMan's picture

You wouldn't be able to sustain being on Methy Test everyday for a 12 week cycle but short time preworkout....yes. If you didn't know methy test is a toxic oral, more than dbol in my opinion. But anyways damn this guy gonna have a hard time not pinning. I mean like stated there's cream etc but man I wish him luck.

alekaras's picture

Is that the same aa m1t that sold otc a couple of years back like superdrol? Yep after 3 weeks or something he will feel like shit!!

DeeMan's picture

No they are different. Methyl Testosterone is the oral methylated toxic form of testosterone in a pill. Alot of powerlifters back in the day and some now still use it. It's in sublingual or oral form. I hardly see it sold nowadays though. Dbol is made from methyl test.

Now Methy 1 Test is oral methylated version of 1- testosterone/ dhb. Very bad toxic stuff.

alekaras's picture

I thought it was the other compound that sold otc, it's was SD and m1t both for bulking but more wet gains from m1t

DeeMan's picture

I was just talking about m1t but yeah both were available legally back in the day. Both were/ are very toxic. Some of the worst in my opinion

alekaras's picture

Yeah very toxic, but the SD that I run a couple of times damn that shit works!!

Pumped_'s picture

I remember getting methyltest in the beginning of my aas start. That was all i could get until i was brave enough to wire funds to the old sources years and years ago. There was no such thing as domestic. Everything took like month or more to arrive.

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DeeMan's picture

I remember back in the day the Russian dbol contained methyl testosterone. It was half and half. That crap messed some folks up.

DeeMan's picture

O yeah? What was your experience? It aint no light weight oral lol. It can be nasty man.

Pumped_'s picture

I was young and dumb, so probably didnt even feel the sides on top of the alcohol. I probably wasnt even taking enough to be effective. There were no ine to get advice from. I didnt get gains until i started pinning.

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DeeMan's picture

I feel ya.

PompsPlace's picture

look for undecanoate

DeeMan's picture

Lol now is your opportunity to put undecanoate on your price list. Only thing is it has very poor bioavailability.

alekaras's picture

Lmaooo undecanoate is most useless compound ever made.. Need 20-30 caps a day to start noticing anything!

DeeMan's picture

+1

DeeMan's picture

Yeah I was messing with @PompsPlace
Hes a good sport. Lol some knuckle heads probably thought I was serious. But yeah I'm very familiar with andriol. I used it long ago.

Diesel77's picture

^^^this^^^^

Much prefer testo gel or cream IF I had to pick between caps or gel/cream. Nothing touches IM administration IMO

PompsPlace's picture

I had a coach back in 05's that who wanted me to be on Andriol for my cycle, I was finishing a box of undecanoate every 2 days, my pockets could not handle 100 USD every 2 days; i quit taking that after the first week.

never again

DeeMan's picture

Yep sounds about right

alekaras's picture

Did you gain anything? Except the hole in your pocket? Lmao

PompsPlace's picture

It was not enough time running undecanoate to tell if it positively helped me. i was also running other compounds that made it even harder to notice if it was really doing something, after that i decided to invest in pharma gh than pharma test.

alekaras's picture

Pharma gh without AAS?

PompsPlace's picture

Not really comment on the post to make a sale DeemMan, just wanted to help a brother with his question. undecanoate has never been a popular product. lol

DeeMan's picture

Figured you didn't post to make a sale lol. I figured you didn't sell it anyways. But yeah its not popular.

PompsPlace's picture

Those kinds of products are for a particular type of clientele, from what i am aware mostly transgender patients.

DeeMan's picture

Ok I gotcha.

Greg's picture

So, what alternatives do I have?

A precise diet and a solid exercise routine; discipline, and patience.

Testosterone also comes in a topical form that is absorbed through the skin.

Greg's picture

I get that Mr. Boom, you stated...

Not being able to find oral testosterone...

I gave you an alternative suggestion, two in fact.
And oh, gee, you can't just walk into a store and buy it?? What a fucking surprise! I'm guessing that's why you're here and not talking to your doctor.

You're welcome by the way.

Diesel77's picture

Send me a FR and PM me and I can direct you to a US domestic source on here who has testo gel in their inventory.