posted Thu, 07/03/2014 - 05:07
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what is your take on this
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(Follow up, pro cycles, pct, ect: http://youtu.be/jRwrZfzv-7I)
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(Follow up, pro cycles, pct, ect: http://youtu.be/jRwrZfzv-7I)
No but I do see something funny a.f. about that video in the comment section. Pm Me and I'll let you know.
I'm slow let me see lol
I think I know what you are talking about.
He's right about some things and totally wrong about others. Nolvadex has more benefits then just preventing gyno during pct, it has some LH and FSH stimulating properties. He is kinda right about how they only help while you on. Its something i have thought about alot. Think about it, clomid and nolva stimulate LH, then lh travels down to your balls and tells them to make test, well thats all fine and dandy except the fact that there is one step that must occur before this happens naturally. This is a complex chain of events. The hypothalamus releases gonadtropin releasing hormone, which then signals the pituatity to produce luteinizing hormone, which then travels through the blood stream down to your testes which tells the lydeg cells to make testosterone.( this is just a generalization of the process). So, if clomid stimulates LH, Whats gonna stimulate GnHr? Once you come off the clomid, and it is no longer stimulating LH, and nothing was done to stimulate GnHr, the pituitary is not gonna release LH. There clomid basically just bypassed one of the steps on the process, It just stimulated LH since the hypo was not producing GnHr. Idk if I'm making this confusing here or not.
So my theory is the clomid stimulates lh so you have some test in your body while your body works to normalize things the hypothalamus can start producing Gnhr again.
Idk if you have heard of triptorlin, but its basically a synthetic form or GnHr. So it does what GnHr does and stimulates LH, but to my knowledge we still don't have a drug that stimulates the hypothalamus to produce GnHr. Im gonna look into that. Im sorry if that was super confusing, its hard to explain.
Thank you for the breakdown I'm still studying it but as far as keeping gains no matter how your diet is.
I'm not claiming to know expert he basically saying your fucked as soon as you take a cycle
naa, thats not true. I usually keep all but the water i put on. The problem lies with guys who actually do his right, and max out there genetic potential before they start using steroids. You can gain 20lbs of muscle on your cycle, but when you come off, you will slowly return to the point your body can support based off your genetics and levels of hormones. That is unless you cruise on a higher dose of test, which i would not advise. If you keep your diet and training perfect you can hold these gains for a long time, but you will return back to your natural maxi or very close to it. So say your genetic potential is 200lbs lean, and your start your first cycle at 180 and go up to 200. You should be able to maintain that weight unless you quit training all together. But if your max is 200lbs and you start at 200lbs and juice up to 220, you will slowly return back down to 200.