posted Mon, 06/03/2013 - 16:29
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Testostrone boosters for PCT Debate
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So this is a debate to get to the bottom of it. Is using a testosterone booster after pct or with pct wise? Im not talking about pro hormones, but simple legal test boosters that have ZMA and all these herbs that are supposed to increase testostrone such as Yohimbeand Tribulus Terrestris.. So Yes or No, explain ur answer. Personally I have used a test booster w/ pct for just 10 days to see what would happen, i seen good results in terms of estrogen decreasing and test raising.. but i still dont know, because most will argue that ur trying to get ur body to restart on its own so using a test booster is almost like using a vial of testosterone.. so lets hear it
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MakaveliCD7Those herbs seem to have more side effects than any good...yohimbe can jack ur blood pressure thru the roof...trib just makes ur stomach cramp and the mad shits and headaches....zma is great for vitamin and mineral deficiencies LOL....IMHO why waste ur money on such ridiculously priced herbs, remedies and witch's brews....It's like buying prohormones, Otc weight loss pills, and so on....hard earned cash....out the window for minimal if any results besides psyche....today we have access to pharma grade clinically proven compounds that reduce ur estrogen, stimulate ur tested and test levels....when u take the prices of the AIs,SERMs,HCG, GnRH, etc....u will find that these compounds are significantly cheaper than these rip of remedy tinctures that have no medical studies but ones in which the company paid for....it only makes sense for u to use the tried and proven....standing the test of time....PCT....I have tried OTC versus the real deal....real deal has and always will win
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With all due respect Beast, I'm surprised to hear you say, "...using a test booster is almost like using a vial of testosterone", because using a test booster is not at all like using a vial of testosterone. A test booster is stimulating natty test endogenously whereas a vial of test (as you know) is exogenous. There are many ways to stimulate natty test. Test boosters are just one of the ways. I know you know this, I just wanted clarification on your above statement.
I think it's a good idea to add test boosters like DAA and vitamin D in general, although I think that your triptorlien protocol should remain the first aspect of PCT, then based on the reaction (verified by blood work) to the one time shot of trip, make adjustments to the remainder of PCT including test boosters. JMHO
PS. I greatly appreciate your pioneering work and writing of your experience with triptolien.
Vitamin D 5000iu a day and DAA is the only thing I would add to PCT
My personal opinion is Test boosters don't boost anything except the bank accounts of the people who sell them. If test boosters worked even marginally, doctors all over the country would be prescribiing them as mild TRT and every kid on a high school football team would be rockin them. There is no such thing as a test booster, and not one LEGIT study has ever shown any of them to raise Testosterone one dgree. I agree with rusty....placebo all the way.
Bridge worked well for me but still kinda cautious about all the false signals that are sent to the brain.
Look up a thread I started asking about bridging. No Bridging bro unless you wanna say goodbye to ur natty test. Your body but just lookin out for ya. PCT is for recovery.
Bridge is a natural test booster made by need to build muscle. I used it after my last pct for a month. I would never try an bridge between cycles with any aas. Thanks for looking out tho brotha! I don't plan on using any test boosters again tho. I really don't want to complicate things during recovery.
RustyhookerPlacebo effect can be very strong but I'm sticking to the tried and true pct. Backed with blood tests.
Yep. PCT is for recovery not adding BS into your system to possibly delay that recovery process. Your body is stressed enough without adding that crap.
DAA always a must for my pct.
other things like tribulus seem ineffective for me.
Clomid + Testforce2 daa + Pes erase = orgasms
Natural Testosterone Booster - crazymass.com I received the order and it was on time and the pills work great.
imo i think your body should return to its normal state without the use of any source of exo test. for example, your body stops producing its own testosterone b/c it thinks it's not needed. Im not saying your body is going to stop producing test but to me it makes since that it could adapt to the amount the natural boosters are causing to be released and not produce adequate amounts without it. better than the boosters would be an hcg blast before pct, imo. you prime your body to start releasing its own test plus you don't enter pct with rock bottom test level
I used D-Pol and Animal-stak for whole PCT, and 4 more weeks following. DAA is D-pol and gives pumps like anavar basically, while animal-stak is an OTC A.I./Estrogen receptor blocker as well as tribulus, and a bunch of other little herbs that help with boosting test. DAA is the strongest of all, and D-pol has the strongest daa.
Try it out for the full 8 weeks you need to run it, it's awesome
Also, you could throw in "Erase Pro," and it'll destroy whatever estrogen blockers aren't blocked by SERMS. That's it's job. Also 8 weeks.
Try it out one cycle, you'll more than likely see a HUGE difference.
DAA is D-Aspartic Acid; Not to get confused with below reply of Dmaa, which has no impact on testosterone.. Dimethylamylamine, which is also now banned from U.S..
what ur sayin is dangerous, so u ran a test booster and herbs for pct?
I ran Clomid, Nolvadex, and Aromasin. On top of everything else posted above.
o ok
I sort of want to do a write-up on this... What do you think? Someone like you should be all over this, maybe it could help somebody? Hmm..
actually im about to go on trt soon
i tried muscle techs anotest for 30 days with pct was great for 30 days but the shut down from deca and coming off the anotest was horrible don't recommend it idk it might have just been the deca as it's the 2nd hardest that shuts down your system behind tren
lol deca shuts me down worst
probably mainly the deca then but im never trying that combo ever again
AnonI'm also going to try a natural "test booster" I'm going to be using dmaa. Not time for pct yet so haven't researched much. But I heard dmaa from others on here. I think but idk. What will you be taking? Zma? Or something else?
AnonI MEANT TO PUT DAA INSTEAD OF DMAA. I'm dumb haha
i was thinking DHEA w/ ZMA & Yohimbe
ZMA, yohimbe, tribulus... I can understand those, I believe they supposedly trigger natural production of test. But DHEA, is basically adding exogenous test to the body being a chemical or hormone that converts to test. Wouldn't that completely defeat the purpose of trying to recover?
AnonDo you really need it tho? I remember your write up on GNRH and it seems that Helps a lot In recovery. THANKS A TON BTW FOR THAT WRITE UP ON TRIPTORELIN OR GNRH. Already have the gnrh on hand for my pct. And with the pct 5 days after the shot of GNRH it would definitely lead to a faster recovery. Why even bother with these natural test boosters? Not trying to be a dick just curious.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkbecause the triptolien isnt enough, if i can recover fully with in 2 month by increasing my odds w/ pct /test boosters/gnrh then why not take everything that helps
AnonThanks for your. Input
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