posted Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:49
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really needing some deca for joints!
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i know alot of you guys hate on deca but ive really been hurting latley with all my heavy lifting plus ive been working with atlas stones and i definetly feeling it in my bad knee and my lower back all ive touched is sum superdrol in the last six months but im hurting literally sum days hard to get outta bed and gotta go throw bags of concrete all day all this shit is wooping me yeah im getting bigger and stronger but idk any suggestions
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I take 100-200mg of deca a week for joints. I "feel" its working. Going to start some 150mg npp EOD in a few weeks at which time I will drop deca and pick it up 2 weeks before i drop npp again.
I am taking NPP, it has the same benefits as Deca, without looking like marshmallow man.
cornfedjthim just gonna give going heavy a break for a lil while and focus more on a bodybuilding routine which will be a change of pace i do do alot of bbing movements but i go heavy to much and im gonna give high rep routine for a min give my body a nice break while im not on aas its alot harder to recover since ive been mostly natty for a while im a big proponent of heavy low reps its worked for me but im gonna focus on the strictess form and high reps sets a while ill let yall know how its goes prob gonna shed sum weight get down to 235 would be a gd weight for me im at 260 rite now so we will see.
That is also why I like NPP, you can cut on it, the mass gained is lean and dry. I have gained some nice dense muscle while dropping a lot of body fat. If you chose to go this route, you wouldn't need a heavy dose, just enough to lube the joints. I barely feel my degenerated discs in my back, I feel great, and the side are minimal.
Anonhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/tendon-health
tread-mPopped you points here for that write which I missed in its origin. Nice write brother.
AnonThank you very much, Sir! Hope you are doing well big guy!:-)
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinktread-mSame to you bro, I'm right as rain man! Lol
AnonI cant be without my deca. I take all the other joint health supliments and natural anti inflamitories but the only thing that takes the pain away is deca
This largely depends on why your joints hurt you though. If something is torn or worn out the the HGH is probably better, and the deca may allow you to do more damage by masking the pain . If you situation is more arthritic like mine, the HGH wont do shit for you, and the deca will be a blessing.
tread-mNov I'm not sure I'd discount the hgh too fast though. In the case of arthritic we may be talking about yrs of low dose use to slowly slowly see the benefit (if it comes at all). I don't know that it would but the thought I have is "new cell production" and with low dose we're talking about a very very slow reduction or correction of something and really being genetic may simply be a "slow it down" thing. My thoughts are, its hard to judge a negative. Meaning if we take something to prevent further damage and it does but the damage level stays the same, might be hard for us to know it actually worked to some degree by way of preventing further damage or even drmatically slowing damage.
So here has been my thoughts on hgh. We know cell depletion over time is what causes aging, we know that same domino effect brings about all of the other secondary issue such as hormone reduction , slower metabolic rate and then higher bp, higher bf, type 2 d, disease and on and on. Having said so, to slow the origin of the domino effect, or slow that first domino from falling and then try to slow the progression of all the dominoes we could at minimal, improve the overall conditions . In the best case scenerio with other healthy components in lifestyle, could even prevent some of what was to be the inevitable.
So I'd say as I did, love my deca but I think the jury may still be out on the hgh and remind too, hard to know always if hgh did help in that maybe it was helping slow the process at minimal and you just didn't realize it not having complete resolution. You have to think stage one cancer is better than stage four. So one might use a treatment and still have stage one canver at the end of it and not realize without the treatment in the same period of time they would have slipped to stage 2 or 3 or even 4. That person might in fact feel as though the treatment failed when the reality of it was that it bought them more time and a little better health in that time. I'd keep an open mind on hgh , I think you might need yrs in the case of something as complex and genetic as arthitis and it may be the stage one thing that comes to fruitionas opposed to complete cure or relief.
Quick point I'd make too nov, which you know but for others reading. I almost hate the term iu or hgh now. We have used it to include anything that says hgh even though 99% of what's out there is not hgh at all. Its like saying should the line of baby powder be the same size as the ?line of coccaine and will the effect be the same? Lol....point is people ask me all the time, "how many iu's a day Tread?" Well iu's of what? If your gh is 1% pure then you need 99 iu's to equal 1 iu of gh that's 99% pure if we are still talking about the use of 191. So I guess my point is....get real hgh because if you're trying to do a repair with kigs it didn't mean Ely Lilly didn't work, it means kigs didn't work.
AnonTrue HGh does seem to work at a turtles pace, and incremental gains can be hard to measure.
Speaking from my own personal experience though, the arthritis I have is disease related not genetic, and I have actually found the HGH I was taking to aggrivate my joint pain if the doseage was high. I have bounced back and forth a few times and taken notes in my book. I have found that the deca helps, but then if I increase my hgh dose I start to feel the pain again . My sweet spot is 3iu of the product I take , how that compares to Lilly I dont know. But I do know that taking zero HGH or up to 3ius I still get relief from the pain I have had for several years.
tread-mThat makes sense too nov. Such as in my case, above 3 iu's hyge.com.cn brand my hands are quite "full". Not fat or even appear to be watered just full. I know that is some water but the point is in that scenerio the cts mimk is higher and would stand to reason arthitis would also fall in that category "I would think". I know of something coming down the road I've looked into some which will likely be the new hgh of its time. It is cell replacement via clning your own cells. The idea behind it is that as we age its simply because our body is producing less and less new cells compared to what one needs to be healthy. So hgh has been a blessing there but as this is approved and becomes part of the new trt clinic life and evn mainstream to your doc, people will do likely weekly injects of their own cells to keep the raw numbers of new and depleted balanced and I really do hope it has the answers for so many issues such as yours in that there could be some clock reversal.
The other thing I've said is this will be the new slin or hg etc in BBing. If you think Cutler is big compared to the BBers of the 60's, wait for the monsters in 20 yrs using cell injects all about the body! This of course would be in addition to all we have now, not to replace it because us in the bidness don't replace..WE STACK! : )
cornfedjth26 6'0 260 around 18%
tread-mHgh...blast and cruise or just cruise
Turmeric daily
Glucosamine chondroitin daily
I have no problems with some deca, love my deca like family. Problem is its a mask and that's it. If you have some actual issue you should take steps to fix them and with the help of the 3 things above I no longer have any of those issues including knee issues, gone, tendon issues gone...tendon issue was tendonitis right arm for yrs off and on...gone never to return. A deca roll while you let the heal do its thang is not a bad idea btw.
All of this of course is generalization not knowing your age/stats
I am in the same boat, my joints hurt too. I've been taking glucosamnine and condroition for about 2 years every day. I also wanted to add a little deca to get some joint relief, not enough to call it a cycle just a little relief. Im on hgh (2iu) right now due to my shoulder problem, hoping it helps it. What would be a small dose of deca to help joints? I would start it when I start test in a week or so.
Tread plz see my post on your born again thread. Accept the friend request plz.
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