posted Thu, 11/17/2016 - 06:37
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Post Cycle Pimples
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So as recommended I recently came off of everything I was running with my last shot of test being exactly 2 weeks ago today. That being said I not have some of the worst pimples I've ever had and these bastards really hurt. They're even on my face. Does anyone have any advice on how to hand this?
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as already stated below, estrogen and blood work need to be your main focus. your hormones likely need balancing. if you need something on top of that to kill off your current acne, try something that was recommended by another member, its called PanOxyl.
get those hormones balanced, don't expect and rely on a topical.
On a side note; dairy can cause or make acne worse.
I actually don't take in any dairy because I was warned about that. Like I stated earlier it's not like I am shocked about this i knew it was going to happen but every other time I've come off the pimples would be on my shoulders which I could care less about but these bastards are on my face and they don't pop at all. It's like my pimples are on the sauce or something haha
Could be estro rebound. Get bloods to see where its at. High estro caused me to have massive breakouts on my back and shoulders.
. If your estro is high then yes you will get acne and badly. If your estro is high it does the opposite. High estrogen in men BLOCKS testosterone. You have 3 forms of estrogen in your body, 2-hydroxyestrogen and 8 and 16 repectively. 2-hydroxy protects while 8 and 16 are killers. So when you have low estrogen, it increases the level of 16-hydroxyestrogen which is what causes havoc. Higher then normal estro also increases DHT which is the main culprit for oily skin, hence acne. High or low estro is blamed for a bunch of shit when in reality his DHT levels are rocketed and so are yours when you break out like crazy.
Mack knows his E2 shit.
+3
Lol I am always trying to find balance which leads me to study shit noone else thinks about. High or low it fucks us up and hinders gains and boners.
Looking into getting some finastride from the doctor to bring my dht down because apparently I haven't noticed but today one of my coworkers told me my hair looks like it's thinning out considerably. Do you think that would be a good help with most of the other sides from elevated dht as well?
Check with your doctor and make sure it will help. Dont throw everything and the kitchen sink at it. When he sees your bloods he can get a btter idea on how to assist.
I mean I figured he'd dive into that anyway. Now it's time to get some decent insurance since Obamacare fucked me this last year so I can run some bloods
Right on. Keep yourself safe.
Yessir. Like I said I wanted to look into finastride for the mpb anyway so shit if I can kill 2 birds with one stone why not but we'll see what the bloods say
Thanks for the explanation Mack. I just wanted to recommend the bloods to determine if it's elevated so he could incorporate an AI and at what dose. I just didnt want him to think it must be high estro without bloods and started taking aro or adex like I did and crashed it. I started incorporating aro in my pct and have had minimal acne since +1
And to whoever pussy negged me fuck off. A + from vike negs all your pussy ass shit
RustyhookerHere. +2 buddy.....relax man. I can betcha it was a thumb on a touch screen. I've negged myself many times just scrolling.
Yeah probably. Was having a bad day when I saw that neg. Work has been a shit show.
Took care of that for you bro. I appreciate your input on this thread!
Blood work is key to making sure the diagnosis is spot on, DHT plays such a big role in a lot of the issues we have; hair loss, acne, e.t.c.
Funny thing is it's almost the most common answer to most problems people are having and no one listens. Let's just throw more shit at the wall to see what sticks. Thanks again
Seems to be the modern mentality........................ unfortunately ;/
new emoji would be giving double thumbs, but you get +3 from me for that statement
Thanks boss
That being said, what is your recommendation?
You need to find something that lowers DHT levels, I never had an acne problem other then normal so Im not sure what you should look for
To be honest it's not like I'm covered in them or anything they're just solid and won't pop and eventually just go away on their own.
http://www.annmariegianni.com/5-foods-that-reduce-breakouts/
http://m.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Bad-Acne
Fuck that's right! I keep forgetting about the sugar thing. The other night I decided to treat myself to a small piece of cake since I've eaten clean for 2 weeks straight. One thing led to another and I destroyed the rest of it. Those Pepperidge Farms coconut cakes make me weak lol. Definitely explains why they've been so bad the last 2 days. I can't even drink a regular red bull without that happening but I seem to forget about that.
Whys that bro?
Because I had seen some articles on here that said that I could gain more muscle if I had better body composition and a lower bf% it'd be easier to get quality lean muscle and I'd get more out of a cycle in the future so I figured if I'm going to do this right why not buckle down and get my nutrition in check and my bf% lower
another +3 for being sensible.
thanks bro............... pasty has you below, not knowing your BF i was wondering why go light eating so soon after a cycle........... typically after a cycle it is wise to keep cals high to hold gains but you are not in that situation yet ........... maybe when you get in some descent shape i could help you with holding solid cycle gains.
ok......
I'd really appreciate that bro. At this point I'm chalking up pretty much everything before now as a loss. Don't get me wrong I'm not going super low on carbs or doing anything crazy but i'm also keeping my protein high and using creatine and BCAA's to try and preserve anything I can while slowly tapering down my carbs. Like I said I'm eating clean not light lol
What BF% are you at right now?
Just tested my bf% and I'm at 20%
Yeah drop that down sub 15% as a general rule. I'd follow some of Makwas dieting threads and you should get there in no time.
One step ahead of you lol. Been communicating with him on that he's been awesome about working with me on it. Just have to get into a groove and learn how to curb my appetite because when I get hungry I'm a real bastard to be around.
Not sure. From pictures I've seen as far as what the average guys body looks like I'd say between 20-23% but my calipers should be coming in today or so amazon says so I'll be able to give you a definite answer very soon.
Then yes, you're doing the right thing. Eat clean, but have cheat meal once in a while, it helps keep your sanity.
At such a high BF% your hormones as Rusty said are ape shit. What was the cycle, how long, etc... you're going to have to follow his advice, run PCT, and just tough it out until your hormones stabilize.
Let's just say I made some bad choices lol. I honestly thought this site was to rate sources until about 2 weeks ago. Was on test for 9 months amongst a whole mess of things I shouldn't have been doing. So I got some pharma hcg and will be running clomid at 150/100/50/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/40/40/20/20 then running bloods 6 weeks after and then again every quarter to see when they are naturally stable. After they're stable and I have my nutrition down I'll probably wait another 3 months before cycling again so I'm projecting between 6-12 months before touching anything again. Most likely around 9 though.
+3 for getting your head straight bro............... prepare the body before to gain from a cycle (not suffer from one)............. you just learnt the first Golden rule.
Is there a list of the rest of the golden rules so I don't have to learn the hard way again?
the list will be your own learning curve im afraid..... we all react differently from steroids, so your own experience will be your guide.......... you will have to persevere with good and bad things happening on your own personal AAS journey.
Eroids holds a deep archive of more or less every problem that will be encountered at some stage..... knowledge is power, the more info you soak up here the better armed you will be to solve and combat problems when they occur.
Lol I figured a lot of stupid things out on my own already. Hence why I'm paying a couple grand to get gyno surgery in the beginning of the new year. 4 months worth of bonus checks down the drain because of my own stupidity but I learned something so it's not a total loss.
now thats hard learning!
Good luck... hope it goes well.
yessir! I've been neglecting any AI because I had the "fuck it" mentality considering I had to get the surgery anyway. Now I'm going to be buying pharma AI from every possible promo I can get my hands on so I can have it just incase. I'm not throwing thousands of dollars down the drain.
Golden Rule #32: Don't EVER step inside Ed's van... it's a trap.
Great now you tell me. I knew those puppies were a scam!
Good man. I wish you a speedy and full recovery and hope you bounce back. Just hang in there until it all stabilizes. Get a charcoal scrub and keep moisturized. You can definitely find a lot of ways to minimize the acne on various beauty blogs (No homo, girl watches them all the time) without further messing with your hormone levels.
Thanks bro. Not gonna lie I've been watching the videos about the charcoal masks but I'm scared of ripping my facial hair out
I use charcoal masks myself and I have a full beard. You don't apply the mask on the beard.
It's just the stuff that I can't necessarily see because it's still light. Still at 26 I don't connect at for the full beard which pisses me off. The test gave me back hair galore but didn't help at all with my beard.
RustyhookerHormonal chaos. Magnifying glass up top. There's a ton of forums on acne control. Hot showers, keep dry, tanning, swimming...chlorine dries.... etc