posted Fri, 04/11/2025 - 16:39
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So in the past I’ve tried Anavar and Tren for lean bulks, is there another injectable that would be worth it more than Tren? I loved the strength it gave me and it kept me lean, but I was doing 300mg test e and 100mg Tren e a week for a 12 week cycle, at about week 10 I had to stop from sides, so was looking for something with similar effects but less side effects, any ideas?
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I think you can lean bulk with almost anything if diet is in check. I had a pretty good recomp cycle with 300/300/300 test , tren a, mast p. If I upped the calories it totally could have been a lean bulk.
Tren is garbage.. you need anavar and nadralon deca
Eq is a great compound but has to be run at least 16 to 20 weeks to see it's full potential
I like longer cycles so that could be a good option, I’ll have to look more into that one, thank ya!
Trying to find an Oil that will replace Tren simply won't happen, its that effective. DHB I have often seen touted as the closest thing with less sides - You shouldn't really be using tren for fat loss as its nowhere near as effective and sustainable as a long term healthy eating plan. You should try and eat the same kinds of foods that I do - Proteins, Fish, Wholegrains - no simple carbs, Ice cream, potatoes and crap like that.
I don't think anyone got the joke did they Lol
300mg test e, 100mg tren e??
Might as well not even do tren. do at least 500mg test, .... pick one of each eq, primo, or mast, .... npp or deca. Then Dbol or adrol, or both with a break between. Take your anavar the last weeks if you must take it on a gain. This would be more like 20 weeks not 12.
300mg test a week puts me in paper well above 2500 free test, that why I don’t go above because imo I don’t need to, my “trt” dose of 15g sets me around 1500, I am interested in either EQ or primo, npp and probably dbol but I don’t know much about Anadrol
Mikey hits it on the head per usual! 500 test is a good start but I’d even suggest titrating up after 8 weeks.
Weeks 1-8: 500 test & 300 dhb
Weeks 9-16: 750 test & 400 Dhb
Weeks 17-20: same as above + anadrol or var
500mg a week would be more than I need, at 150mg a week I sit around 1500mg on paper, 300mg puts me well over 2500mg
Stick to what works best for you, no need to increase the possibilities of unwanted sides when you’re getting the desired results running minimal dosage.
Ya I respond well to low doses which is nice on the wallet.
During the growth phase, it is recommended to use a highly anabolic(test,eq,dhb,npp even primo) compound that supports and promotes growth. However, the raw element that will yield the effects is what you eat. Anvil stated it well: you can use the same stuff and completely change your physique simply by changing your diet.
I was looking into primo and have been for a while, it’s just quite a bit more expensive than others but may be worth it and ya I’ve kinda alway stuck to a lean diet, I try not to accumulate any body fat % but ya its difficult to gain size and stay lean.
Dhb and better diet.
anvilLeave tren out completely, either work on growth or being very lean doing both at the same time is just very difficult. That's why people have 2 separate phases growth/lean. Says you are 8 percent but your photo if that's you is will above 8%. 300 Test is just above trt and not likely to "bulk you up". Look at food as the key here not drugs, I take the same drugs basically year round and just change my diet to change my look, and I do not use tren at all. Just add some primo or eq if you are dead set on adding something. Good luck.
Those numbers are from a while back, I haven’t updated it and 300mg test outs my total free test over 2500, my trt at 150mg a week keeps me around 1500
anvilI don't do uncapped testing anymore, 1500 on TRT isn't TRT because its supraphysiological level at 1500, its actually a cycle. If you are good responder that is great because 150mg per week keeping you at that is a good score but a score is only a paper result. Androgen receptors upregulate with drug use, so upping the test should net you more results as you do. As I previously stated, the real difference between and bulk and lean phase is the diet.
True true, paper and real world are different and yes I keep my diet in check when on cycle at 300mg, I try to eat fish, chicken and lean beef with healthy carbs, I think my issue is being able to eat the amount I need to bulk, I have a hard time eating more than 3x a day.
anvilYeah that will limit you for sure. I just add shakes in, which is not ideal but better than doing nothing. When I am in a growth phase I add rice to every meal, when I am leaning I do not.
Hmm that’s a good idea, I’ll try adding rice to all the meals and double up on my shakes, I’m very interested in trying Primo, EQ or NPP, leaning more towards primo tho atm though EQ could benefit me with my running I think?
anvilPrimo, eq, DHB all a go in my book brother.
Well thanks allot man, I’ll have to look into DHB, haven’t looked into that one before.
anvilAnytime, HMU anytime you have a question. Love getting into this stuff, and if you get something out of it that great to hear also.