posted Thu, 02/21/2013 - 06:43
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How deep is deep enough?
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Pinning 250mg X 2 wkly. Concentration 250per cc. Can not use glutes or quads any longer too debilitating
gear has way too much BA (burns through entire push). Have been hitting delts alternating on 1 1/4" 27g and just switched to 25g 5//8" pinned Sun PM and last night Weds PM, both shoulders equally sore. I'm intimately aware of ALL actions to make injection site less painful, my question is simply does the depth of the injection make any difference to the level of discomfort with mediocre gear. Please respond if you have personally pinned at different depths, thanks.
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The most excruciating, debilitating gear I ever used was the old Stealth Supertest 450. I only thought i'd experience pip before this poison. I can't speak from personal experience but it had to be damn near like getting shot in the ass with a .22 mag and catching the flu on top of it. Anyway, I tried different injection depths, cutting it and it didn't really seem to help. You could always add a ml or so of cso to dilute it and see if it helped.
I had a few vials of prop that was either all BA, or dosed @400mgs per ml..... tried cutting it half n half with GSO, still debilitating PIP.... also had my resting heart rate on overdrive, 90-100 BPM, night sweats, anxiety... tried rotating glutes, quads n delts... always buried 1 1/2 inch in glutes, 1" in quads and delts... injected from all 3 vials, same result. Ended up trashing that shit and moved on ;-)
AnonHave you tried adding .5 ml of GSO to your 1ml shot ?
Not yet, thinking of trashing the gear for the simple fact that if I have to dread pin days and recovery from pins I'm taxing my body without the benefit of the gears maximum potential.
GearofWarBend over, I'll show ya! Sorry couldn't resist.
1.5" in delts, and everywhere else for that matter too. All the way in, to the hilt. I've tried pinning at half depth and I think it felt worse. One time I pinned my bi and had oil buildup under the skin because I didn't go in deep enough. Got all red, sore and hot. After that I use all inch and a half of my pin everytime, every location.
AnonFirst off, whats your BF%?
It kinda depends on your bodyfat. If youre low enough you can slin pin delts and such.
Shoulder I use 1inch but go about 5/6th of the way in.
Quads the exact same. In my quads I can actually feel when I hit the muscle because I feel another pin prick inside my leg.
Think I'm going back to the 1" outer head of delts are getting hard to the touch, sticking with delts and quads, thanks
5/8 is sub q as is 1/2inch
Or IM for low bf and advanced spots; say biceps or pecs
1in delt is common
1.5 quad and glute
Use 22-25g for IM
And 27-30g sub Q
I always say, " the deeper the better", but not too deep. I think it has more to do with the quality of the powders and what oils are being used, more then the depth of the needle.
Deff 1'' when hitting the delts bro.
I use one inch on delts. I'll inject 2cc with no issues, but we are all different. Also size of person has its factors also.