posted Mon, 02/16/2015 - 17:18
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High doses, Mega doses, Low doses
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hey iron bros, i got into a debate about steroids doses with some guys i know.. after some discussion we all have different opinions on what is considered high doses.. i was wondering what's considered a high dosage of testosterone ?. i know its against the rules to talk about Mutant doses, so idiots don't get any ideas but, i think 500-600mg/wk of test is a low dose, 750mg-1,200mg/wk of test is medium and anything above 2g/wk is crazy what you guys think?
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This has to be subjective to the user, no other way to look at it. Take my 2 friends. Friend A told me he is running 300mg cyp and 150mg tren a per week, divided into 3 shots and by the way he said it, he sounded like he was bragging to be on so much juice. By the way, he responds very well to his gear and with a 7-8% bf and solid physique, I am impressed to say the least. Friend B takes 1cc of sust 250 a day, and when I asked why he was taking 1750mg of test a week he said all the different esters make it much lower. Ok, yes he is an idiot and looks like a water baloon, but for HIM that was low. I am leaning around the 500/750/1200 low med high for myself. Again, all subjective.
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So are you saying just test or all compounds added together? Like test+tren+mast=
just test
Gotcha I would say...low 500mg medium 750 high 1000... Honestly though I hate the moon face so I try to stick low and add other compounds!
It also depends on brewer, and on the individual sensitivity/response.
Some people respond better to low doses than others, some people respond better to certain esters better than others, certain compounds entirely, etc etc.
Then comes the lovely brewer variable when using UGLs, in which bloodwork is probably the best way to identify. One sources test may put you at the same levels as another's, but using only 80% of the same doses. So yes, some UGL gear may be under dosed, some may be overdosed. Hence why the bloodwork is so stressed on this forum.
Ideally, for a control experiment, everyone would be required to use pharma grade, from the same company, to get a somewhat clear picture really...
As an aside, I wonder how many people say they will get bloodwork and how many people actually do get bloodwork.
My opinion, low dose is maintenance. Medium is 500-750, and anything above that range is high.
I think the law of diminishing returns should dictate the level, and how effective you want your future cycles to be.
It's all relative. Some of you guys would be shocked at what some of us consider "high dose".
I don't discuss my cycles or doses in the open forum for good reason.
Depends on the level of experience. For me a high dose of test is 1000mgs. Low dose would be like 300mg. Medium would be somewhere in between there. But it depends on the person and the level there at physique wise. I knkw guys who have to cruise on a gram to maintain their gains betwen cycles. So it's all depended on the person.
RustyhookerDefine dose. Low, medium or high can change quickly by types.
Example, a basic test/eq stack 600/600. Changes the definition. Add in orals and there's another 300+. Add in finishers like dht and there's added 400-600. Then if you get kickers and orals in shorts. Switches, etc.
If we compare low, medium, or large it has to be looked at from varied angles.
Now this is interesting because 500 use to be the standard because 250mg was the standard dosing per ml but since labs started brewing in 300mg the "new" standard is 600
...just an observation
RustyhookerTrue! Even the posted doses per ml are all over the place. Even the basic "beginner" cycle of 500 mg per week is under fire as not enough. Lol.
Never actually noticed that before! Nice observation haha something about human thought that strives towards evenness and linear-ity (if thats a word)
500mgs w/ 300mg/ml is just too mathy (5/3's CC but hey who has the time to measure that), lets just make it 600mgs!
For myself, a rec user
Low: 300-450
Medium: 450-750
High: 750-1250
Unnecessary for recreational user: 1250+
For testosterone atleast.
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You are just like me my friend. I'm almost 40 and I'm on trt. I haven't been on a blast/cruise cycle in about 2 years. I've pretty much been taking 150 mg every 10 days.
Well today I went with 400 mg and was going to run it for 12-14 weeks and then go back to my trt dose. It's been so long since I've pinned 400 that I'm excited to see how the mental effects are and then in about 4-5 weeks what it shows in the gym.
This is pretty close to my opinion too. A gram is a high dose.
yep thats pretty close to mine too.
Wow edit. Your a higher rank than me. So the answer should allready be knowledge... This is not a rough draft to create a model here....
I think the title to your thread is half as long as your topic.
You don't cover any examples of usage in pro use, rec use, self use.
You did estimate and name your own sectors Of dosage. Only three. With the standards being >500mg to <2000MG
I don't see any benefit in your ranking System. To me it just to basic.
Are we all so similar that" Sumatra "only need a monster dose to be a monster? I have been told I am a monster before drugs at less than 200#. Civilians don't lie much. If thy blurt it out in the break room that's small results. Body building is exponential, and I am an endurance athlete.
I won't be so cool and technical as holly wood.
I think that you need to clarify your goals... Why just place a" Mario one up " on gear? Diet diet and work work.
rank doesn't mean shit to me bro, a noob could know more than me, so if you had to own me, i would take it like a man. its not suppose to be a ranking system is ALL opinion based. i just wanted to see what other people considered a high dose or a low dose.. thats it.. we all go to the cycle section for a specific suggestions to a specific goal.. this is just a general discussion on doses.. i guess you just misunderstood my topic here.
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there are variables involved bro - natty test levels, clean receptors, other binding compounds etc... But someone who doesn't have any test deficiency who has clean receptors and not running any other compound can get nice results from 400mg/wk (if diet and training are spot on)
The super doses are more for the full on lifestylers who hit a plateau and are looking for juuuust a few more pounds... A lot iof guys on this board are just wasting gear and money with the "more is better" line of thinking and will be crying when they plateau at 30 and get stuck with body dysmorphia because they don't understand why they can't get "bigger"
That is why on Eroids we say be the turtle!