posted Wed, 02/20/2013 - 06:31
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Gyno help or hurt?
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Hello all,
I'm very understanding of what to do if symptoms occur on a cycle, or if gyno is newly formed from a recent cycle but my question is this....
I have slight gyno from child hood, the Dr.'s only suggestion is to go under the knife, what will happen If I go on a cycle? If the correct precautions are take will it just stay the same and not get worse? Could I potentially get rid of it from doing the correct things on cycle? Is it bound to get worse?
I'm at about 11-12% bf currently.
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Surgery is an option I could pay for it ( haven't looked into my ins coverage) I would just prefer not to have surgery ( funny right, I have no problem sticking my self with a chemical ordered off the Internet, but hesitant about surgery). Worst case scenario if I can't keep it at bay on a cycle it will force my hand to have it removed!
GearofWarThat's the way to think of it my brother. Be sure to keep an AI on-hand(I prefer Aromasin) and try to keep it under control. If it gets out of hand, even with the AI surgery is an option as you've stated. Surgery's no big deal anyway bro. I've been under the knife for major back, and stomach surgeries. Shit was a breeze, lol! If you're still apprehensive I know there are at least 2 members here that have recently undergone gyno removal and have posted threads about their experiences. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to give moral support through a PM and a FR. Best of luck bro!
Normally,I would'nt chime in with this much detail to a question. But you mentioned surgery and that I have experience with. So I will assume you have considered it,can afford it or have ins. that will cover it. Best thing I ever did in regards to my goals. Simple office procedure, drain tubes for a few days, couple invisable stitches , and no gyno, ever. Before surgery I would get gyno bad but only with any test or 15mg. or more of dbol. No problem with anadrol,deca.equip,primo,anavar, hgh ,etc. etc. did'nt have tren or mast back then. Now on occasion I will get itchy nipples that comes and goes when on some test. But thats it. Now if surgery is not an option, there are plenty of threads and veterans that will help you. Anyway, just my experience.
Gearofwars, this is what I was thinking or just skip the adex and just use low dose of letro?
This would be my first cycle.
Test e 500mg 12 weeks
Tbol 50 mg/ day week 1-5
Adex .5-1mg eod week 1-12
Var 50mg/day week 10-13 ( still debating since this is cycle #1)
Pct week 13-16 Novla 40/40/20/10
Hcg 500iu week 13-14
WithdrawlMy opinion I'd use only test at 500mg a week. Trust me, there's no need for anything else, you'll grow like a weed with just test. Also, you'll be able to see how your body responds to it with estrogen sides. You won't be able to accurately tell if you throw other stuff in there. Also, consider using aromasin at 12.5mg a day instead of arimidex. In my experiences I like aromasin much better. It also starts working quicker if shit hits the fan and you need to up the dose. You can also take it through PCT with nolva and clomid. Also start your PCT two weeks after your last shot of test E. Don't use HCG in PCT either.
I promise you man, you're way better off just using just test for your first cycle.
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WithdrawlIt would help if you gave your cycle history (if any) as well as the cycle you are planning on running next. Certain drugs have higher conversion rates to estrogen or prolactin so we'd need to know what you are going to be using.
As for a general answer, chances of your current gyno going away are pretty much zero. Gyno from puberty is pretty much there to stay unless you get it cut out. As long as you keep your estrogen levels in check during your cycle and follow proper PCT you shouldn't have any problems with it getting worse. If you are using any 19-nor compounds like deca or tren I would definitely make sure you have some caber or prami on hand to keep your prolactin levels in check.
GearofWarDo you suppose he may have to use "higher than normal" dosages of AI's due to having pre-existing gyno and possibly being predisposed to excessive gyno if he already has a lump? Just curious on your thoughts.
WithdrawlMy gut wants to say yes, they are more prone, but I haven't really seen any evidence to go one way or the other. Maybe not necessarily needing higher doses of AI's but maybe a higher chance of getting gyno if no AI is used.