Drawing Gear From Ampules, And Into Empty Sterile Vials??.
What's up guys! I just wanna get some ideas/advice, about what I plan on doing with some gear ampules I have. I have some test cyp, sust and nandro amps that I didn't originally plan on getting in amps, but long story short, that's how I ended up getting them. To make storage and precise dosing easier, I'd like to draw out each amp and inject them into separate sealed, empty sterile 10ml vials for each compound. This way, I can inject amounts other than 250mg, and won't have to worry about "storing" the rest of the amp until my next injection.
Now, I don't see contamination or sterility issues being any kind of real problem. But in case there's something that I'm not thinking of, or some other good points to think about, I'd like to hear about them from some other members. Or just some relevant information about this topic is welcome. Alright, thanks a lot for any input fellas!
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Done it myself many times before, had no issues over the course of several years doing so bud.
RustyhookerResearch is difficult
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/ugl-pip-paranoia
Filtering in hospitals from amps is the requirement. Transferring is not at all new.
That’s a lot to read! Very detailed! +1
Alphamale500You seem like you have some ulterior motive here, so I'll just let you be, while you get it all out!
But let's be honest here. How many ppl use a syringe filter when they draw up their injection from an ampule? My guess is slim to none. So that's basically the same thing I did, except I did it 10 times in a row! And being that I don't work in a hospital, I wouldn't know their rules and requirements. But thank you for informing me never the less, I still like to learn everything that's AAS related! Thks.
Btw, I think I may have made a spelling error in another comment towards the bottom so you might wanna check that out. Lol!
RustyhookerHelping you was my alterior motive. Not wanting to see you error was my alterior motive. That wont happen again. Guaranteed.
Did i spell dick correctly?
Alphamale500You did help and I sincerely appreciate that! Just the way you began your comment, didn't sound that way to me. It sounded like a.... You know, I'm gonna take the high road here. Thank you for your help, and my bad for misconstruing the situation! I truly apologize bro.
Btw,
Noun. ulterior motive (plural ulterior motives) An alternative or extrinsic reason for doing something, especially when concealed or when differing from the stated or apparent reason.
Jk, Lol!!! C'mon, you're a big boy. Suck it up! -no homo
RustyhookerYo momma sucked it up!!! Oooohhhh....buuuurrrrnnnn!
Yo mamma jokes rule. Lol!
Alphamale500That is truly the biggest piece of shit statement that I've ever seen any fuckn body make on this site! You should really feel like the lowlife piece of shit you really are for making that statement! My mother's sick right now. And no matter how many times I got arrested growing up, she was always there for me and had my back. Like nobody else. And I ain't fuckn ashamed to say it. I'm fuckn proud to have a mother like I have. You call yourself a man? What kind of man would say something like that about another mans mother?? That's fuckn beyond low. SMMFH!!
RustyhookerSo if i stats. thats what she said youd still cry. Check your estro. You been whining everywhere
Hope your mom gets well.
Alphamale500Look, all I'm saying is you don't talk about other people's mother or family. Say whatever you want about me, but you don't talk about someone's mother as a grown man bro. You have to realize that was something you shouldn't have done. I'm all for joking around, but not insulting mothers or family.
RustyhookerJk, Lol!!! C'mon, you're a big boy. Suck it up! -no homo
Thats what SHE said!
Alphamale500Lol!! See, now that's more appropriate!! Lol!!
Alphamale500Wow, smh!! I didn't even see this comment before responding to those other comments that I did. I don't even know what to say here. Bro, you say whatever you want about me, but you bring it to a whole fuckn other level when you start to childishly talk about mothers!! Smmfh! What are you fuckn 11 yrs old bro? You don't fuckn know who's mothers are dead, in the hospital suffering from cancer, etc. That's the biggest lowlife fuckn comment I've ever seen you make. That's just not acceptable.
Use as small of a pin as possible to load into the amp. 25g or 27g if possible. You can draw from the amp with a larger pin, just put a smaller pin on to load into the amp. The reason is because you will poking twice as many holes in the stopper and big pins will result in pieces of rubber breaking off into your oil and leaks. I've done this numerous times and don't see anything wrong with it. Just be sterile and don't tear up your stopper
Alphamale500Thanks bro, you've made some good points. And that's what I try to explain to ppl that use 18g pins to draw their gear with. Smh, there's really no reason to use such a thick pin no matter what you're injecting. When I draw and inject my gear, I draw with a 23g, switch to a new 23g pin and inject. Occasionally, I might use a 25g pin. I prefer to use 23g in the glutes, when possible.
But yeah, I've already switched the ampules into vials. I know there's really nothing to it and it's not brain surgery, but I just wanted to hear a few thoughts from some other members. You never know when someone has a better way of doing something.
So, I used a 10ml syringe with a 22g pin and just cracked open each amp, drew it up, and onto the next amp! When I had all 10mls in the syringe, I switched to a new 22g pin and injected all 10mls into a sealed sterile depyrogenated 10ml vial, which I keep on hand for my HCG solutions. And of course, I maintained sterility throughout the whole process. I'm not gonna lie, this really was a pain in the ass! Especially when you have multiple 10 amp boxes of each compound, Lol!
Btw, I really love that sound when you crack open an amp with one hand. Ahhh, it really brings me back! Lol!
AnonLmao spoken like a true meathead.
Probably the same feeling people get cracking open a beer lol
Alphamale500Lol!! Yeah, it's like the same feeling as that! But I've been clean of all drugs and alcohol for years now, so I gotta stick with that beautiful cracking sound of a breaking amp, Lol!
Haha I hear you bro! I bet it was a pain in the ass breaking open 10 amps! I like to use a 23 in the glutes too, everything else a 25. I also use a 23 to draw. Anything larger just chews up the stopper and can pull small particles. Sounds like you have it down tough.
AnonI don't understand the easier storage reason, I could store either no problem. I do understand the easier precise dosing reason. If any of this gear is dosed the way you like it per amp then I see no point in transferring it from the original amps into a single vial.
Edit: If you meant storing vials is easier than storing amps I don't understand how.
If you meant you snap amps, draw some out, then cover the broken top with saran wrap or aluminum foil or something for later use.... I would never ever do that. Not clean. If you're doing that then I think you should definitely stop doing that and go with your sterile vial idea bro.
Second edit: I saw your comment about storing 1/2 the amp in a pin. I never let gear sit in a pin longer than a day. After a few days or a week the plungers can swell. If the pins have plungers with the nipple tip like the EXEL brand it'll swell and the tip can get stuck at the end of the barrel and waste gear.
Alphamale500My point was, I usually inject doses around 150mg to 175mg while running my cutting cycles. I'm one of those guys that likes to run low test cycles along with my other gear I'm running. Also, when I'm not running cycles, I'm on a trt dose of test which for me is 100mg/wk. When I said storage, I meant storing the remainder of the ampule after drawing lets say 150mg out of it. And the precise dosing part of it you understood you said, right?
I don't mean anything about storing vials is easier than storing ampules, or anything like that. And if any of this gear was dosed the way I like it per amp, I wouldn't have written this post now would I? And that whole part about covering the amps with seran wrap or aluminium foil, I don't even know where that came from, and of course I wouldn't do that. And about storing the other unused half of the amp in a pin, I don't currently do that. I was just using that example as part of my reasoning of why putting it all in a 10ml vial would be so much more efficient, allowing for precise dosing.
For my dosing schedule at the moment, I think this is the most efficient way to keep them together in a sterile manner and be able to draw smaller doses than the 250mg that the vials contain. Yeah, I've decided that this is the way I'm gonna go. It's not brain surgery, I just wanted to hear some opinions to see if maybe there's something I wasn't thinking of. I have everything needed like the sterile empty vials and such, so I might as well. Thanks though.
AnonI accept fault for the misunderstanding. I apologies. I understand now and I think your idea is great.
Alphamale500It's all good bro! No need to apologize.
My preference is also vials. I would treat this like transferring sachets into vials. Wipe down your surface well, spray Lysol air sanitizer spray, gloves and a mask. I’m a little over the top. I would use a 10cc syringe. With sachets, I usually use a new needle every draw. I am also liberal with the alcohol. My buddy has a hepa flow hood. That’s a great way also.
I agree but I draw my satchets up with 18 gauge I get at Rural King. Then I switch the head back to the regular size before transferring to the bottle.
Not sure I’d use an 18 with an amp though,
It’s big enough you could draw up a glass shard.
Why not use a filter needle to draw, discard that needle, and install a regular one to either fill the vial or inject? That is what any halfway competent healthcare provider would do.
Alphamale500+1 from me bro. It turns out your comment was right on the money. My bad bro!! But in all honesty, I never have seen a healthcare provider do that before. But that's likely because I'm not around them much to see them do it, Lol!
Rustyhooker+2. As someone who did the er circuit. Yes, we draw from amps using a whatman, switch to needle and stick the patient. Last pin i did that way was a measured narcotic for woman in severe pain.
Alphamale500Btw, this is none of my business really. But you did write a plus 2 for @SteveAmino, yet I don't think you gave it to him. Just looking out.
I’ve never seen a health care provider transfer gear from an amp to a bottle.
RustyhookerMight go read retired mod nittis post. Might also see what i replied above. Amps in hospitals are common. Transferring is nothing new to US at all.
Its also very common for near a decade when discreet shipped packs are used. Its common to get tge biggest cc barrel, draw all discreet oils AND transfer into those sterile vials via a WHATMAN and New needle.
Alphamale500Yeah really, neither have I! Smh.
RustyhookerReally? Your new here...i will be gentle...
Yet your other replies ok a 10cc syringe... ;)
True, the 18g can possibly draw shards, however the 25g you are injecting with wont draw/push shards out, worst case scenario you have shards in the 10ml vial you dump into, but then again the same shards are in the oil you are extracting and transferring so its all the same. HEADACHES ALL AROUND lol
Alphamale500I was of course thinking about maintaining sterility, but I wasn't thinking about using all of that tbh. But it does make sense to keep everything absolutely sterile. The 10cc syringe would be the best way to do it. Thks bro.
You seem to have the concept under control. As Pale said its a lot of extra trouble, so it's your call whether or not to bother.
Why go through all that extra trouble? Just break the damn amps as you go. And for the record I have been using primo and test amps for years now without any trouble other than accidentally smashing a few over the years in my hand.
The amps breaking is why you always wrap them in an unopened alcohol swab, top and bottom before you crack it. Besides filter needles and some amps breaking (there was one brand that was super cheap, and terrible about the amps shattering quite often that comes to mind), amps are just fine for me.
Alphamale500I've never done that before, and I've never even seen that done before. There's absolutely no need for that. I put an amp in one hand, and just snap the top off with the thumb of that same hand. Nice and simple!
Go ahead. Do you see nurses do all that?
Alphamale500I've never seen anyone do that, Lol!
Alphamale500That's true. But I'm usually either running a cutting cycle with a low dose of test @ like 150mg, or using a trt dose @ 100mg. So it just seems like it'll be easier. I don't have any problems with the amps themselves, in fact I used to love using amps. That nice crack it makes when you pop one open with one hand! Ahhhh, Lol! I get a kind of nostalgic feeling from when amps was basically all I used in my earlier years.
I actually prefer amps but some guys might want 1.5 cc instead of one or two.
I think amps are more sanitary.
Alphamale500You see, like that exactly. If I were to inject it like you said, then what do I do with the other half cc? I know I can just keep it in a pin until needed, but I figured just putting all the oil in vials would be easier for dosing. Especially for trt and all I need is a 100mg. Thks.
Use one and shorten up the injection schedule.
If you wanted to inject 1.5 amps every 3 days,....... then inject 1 amp every other day instead.
You could but scar tissue is an issue for some of us.
That’s the only reason I use long esters.
The puberty side effects I get with prop are better for me. No homo
Random can be a good thing at my age.
With Cyp it’s mainly the morning.
Alphamale500That's true, I could do it that way. The reason I was thinking about this in the first place is because when I run test with most of my cycles, I like to run low doses with cutting cycles. Doses such as 150mg. So I was thinking I could crack the vials open quick, draw each up, inject into the empty vial, and just repeat with the same pin for each pack of 10 vials.
RustyhookerNitti forum describes it
AnonI don't see how this could be problematic, stick a vent in the vial and load it up! Much easier from a vial imo.
You're going to use it up within a few months I'd assume
Alphamale500Or do you mean instead of using multiple pins to inject the gear??
Alphamale500How come you said I should stick a vent into the vial? I'm not doing any heating of anything. Just basically switching the gear from their ampules into a vial.