posted Wed, 06/12/2024 - 04:34
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+ 1 Crashed E2 , will Dbol bring it up?
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Hey guys on prep currently 7 weeks out.
I believe I’ve crashed my E2
350 primo in , 400 mast, 525 test c, 150mg tren ace
Been taking .5 adex MWF I’m around 8-9% body fat.
Experiencing a ton of low e2 sides but the worst of it is getting some heart palpitations.
Going to back of adex and check labs and do a Estradiol LC/MS/MS test to get my e2 checked without the influence of tren showing up as estrogen.
My question is how have you solved crashed E2 and how can I do it quickly? Will taking 50mg dianabol bring me up?
Thanks fellas. (And please don’t shit on me, as I lose body fat I get less and less aromatase activity so dialing in my AI has been tricky. Might drop it out completely after I pull labs)
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E2 is crashed. I gotta run double test to even run half eq, primo. 2 ro 1 test. Somtimes 3 to 1 for me. Drop the primo and mas way down. Blast some hcg, and dbol. Both will help get the e2 up.
elpharmaThat's Fair Enough I think.
When i got E2 symptoms then . 25 every 3 days is fine. If anything start with that by default and adjust from there. That seems like a lot to do even for 500mg test. But dbol definitely is a quick fix. Stay off the AI until you learn your doses.
I think hcg or Tne would be preferable but dbol will do the trick
Just for future reference if your mast/primo dose is already higher than you test dose, an AI will most likely not be necessary, you might need it, but i definitely wouldn’t include it right off the rip without feeling sides first.
I’d say pick one to get rid of, masteron, primo or AI. Personally I’d drop the Ai and check bloods. Your very lean and I doubt at this point you’d be aromatizing heavily
Just curious what other sides you noticed?
AK80Too much Primo and Mast. Just pick 1 or the other. My body does well with Primo @ 300 per week/Test 450/Tren 150 and I don't need an AI. Yes Dbol will bring it up. DHB will too. Take those with caution though. Once you figure out your perfect combo, you will be considered "dialed in" and can remember that for the future/stay there/etc.
DHB? Never had a problem with DHB and raising estro. You talking about 1 test cyp? That would take a long time to affect the estrogen levels considering it is a cyp ester. Just never heard of anyone using that ever for that reason. DHB isn't suppose to aromatize or cause gyno so I am not sure if you meant something else.
Thank you , that’s what I’m thinking I like the Primo because of the fuller look over mast, but it definitely does more to my estrogen
I would drop the Tren and the adex. I have actually lowered my E2 with just Primo and Proviron when I run test lower then Primo.
I prefer a 2 to 1 ratio of primo to test that keeps my E2 levels great. Also run 50mgs of prov with cycle
happened to me 3 weeks ago. Took HCG 3x a week at 750mcg a shot for the first 2 weeks and then 500mcg 1-2x a week.
It'll take about 10 days for your E2 to go back up. sex drive back up 1000%. sleeping deeper. anxiety dropped completely.
Forget the dbol, that shit comes with a bag of tricks. Primo will indefinitely destroy your E2. Drop the AI's completely for now or remainder of thge cycle. so you'll have to run HCG in conjuction atleast 1-2x a week. good luck.
Thanks boss, yeah, I’d rather not mess with the dbol too heavily. Gonna order some hCG.
When I use primo I keep dbol on hand in case of the drop in estro. 2 days of dbol brings mine right back up but in saying that I also try to get bloods to make sure everything looks good
Yes on adex you can take dbol to increase e2. Aromasin you have to wait out because it permanently binds to the aromatase enzyme.
Just try not to go crazy. Adex rebound is real.
I see everyone has chimed in a little. I'm similar in that I have to ride a fine line with my estro/sides and I know it. Any changes and it moves quick. I know TNE and HcG will spike up my estro in a hurry, like a day or 2. But Dbol is a good option as well.
I’ve used Dbol or a shot of HCG. Good news is Adex is non suicidal. If you crashed it with asin then you’d have to wait for your body to make more aromatase enzyme. Can’t covert anything to E2 if you got no enzymes to do it lol
Love the dosages by the way. Goes to show you don’t need 700mg tren like you see some gym bros running. Little goes a long way.
My man. Thank you. Yes sir. Letting my body do the work and not pushing one lever over another. To many drugs adds too much chemical stress on top off the stress of training diet cardio- gotta play my cards right just overplayed the Ai a bit here possibly the primo too.
Thank you , will update soon.
Hell Yeah!! Dianabol is probably the most estrogen provoking compound there is, Test Base is also good for causing a spike. May have to take the DBol at 50mg for several days though if its really bottomed out.
Thank you brother. I will keep you guys updated on how things go. Took 50mg so far. Dropping AIs for now and may have to pull down or pull out the primo entirely.