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I have quite a few issues for the past 1-2 yrs: shoulder tendonitis and bursitis, piriformis (hamstring), quad issue, etc. (this probably doesn’t matter but I am female). I ice often, see a chiropractor and have incorporated stretching, foam rolling, diet is just fine, etc. I have been lifting about 75% of what I'm used to and I am not able to gain the muscle I had prior to these ailments; I need intensity and heavy weights. High rep/low weight doesn’t work well for me. I work out 5-6 days/wk; 2 days of upper/lower doesn't promote much growth for me. I’ve incorporated drop sets, super sets, time under tension, eccentric lifts, etc.. into my routine. I’m probably still doing too much volume because constantly in pain (and due for a break). ***My question is, has anyone worked around nagging ailments and what is the best solution to continue to gain more than just minimal muscle or just to “maintain."
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I got my karma back, not from the member who made a mistake.
My friend, if I made a mistake, I can lose all of my karma. It's different when you're dealing with kids.
In your comment you say you have an injured elbow but 'continue to train like an animal' - Why wouldn't someone neg you for saying that obviously stupid comment?
jayiskjust a little confused on why it became an issue over a karma point or 2. nothing against you.
Meh...don't overanalyse it mate. He's just being precious.
jayiskYou always have words of wisdom Oz...lol
"I thought that it was a reasonable comment - certainly nothing in it to warrant a neg....but maybe someone read it wrong or hit the wrong key."
The above was my comment a couple of hours ago - now, when I read the latest comments and your replies - sorry Dude, but you need to grow up and take your paranoia elsewhere. It's an online forum, take it as it happens FFS, and your shit is railroading the OPs thread...strangely enough - it's not all about you..
In all of his comments he always talks as if its all about him Oz ...
He reckons he trains like an animal..I wonder if the animal he is referring to is a pussy ;-)
StevebI gave you karma
I don't think I wrote anything wrong.
Maybe someone has a problem with me? I don't know.
Thank you Sir.
Or maybe someone with a fat thumb on a cell phone...
Sir, I can give you more details in private. Thanks again
very true - break to me means losing what I have! lol
I can relate, I've been going through a similar situation for the past 2-2.5 years. I tried so much and then attempted to use various peptides, gh, deca and even bold trying to improve the issues. I got temporary relief and was able to maintain most of the mass. Eventually I had to accept what was tue reality for me and back off training a lot. I wouldn't go anywhere near my maxes, typically ~50% or even less. I've had to make sure stress was managed in life, sleep was 7-8 hours every night and nutrition was always on point. I would not workout 2 days in a row, it has always been one on and one to two off. I've lost around 15 lbs of muscle but I'm finally able to start legitimately healing. I've literally had to relearn how to lift and dramatically improve my mind muscle connection. I always tried to really focus on form and avoided ego lifting by but i now realize there was significant room for improvement.
It has been very hard and has made coping with life stress more difficult without having the outlet but after 2 years I'm finally making progress on allowing the injuries to heal and I feel I'm getting closer to being able to pushing things a little further. It's really hard to accept backing off but it's been great for my body and even psychologically.
At times enhancements may help minor injuries but when you have a serious one, or even worse, multiple ones at the same time, enhancements may end up making things worse in the long term.
Finding a GOOD physical therapist and deep tissue massage may help. From my experience though finding a quality DPT is difficult, especially one that works with you one on one through each session and isn't having a tech just move you through the exercise without giving an expert guidance. Massage therapist can be good but it's also tricky because they sometimes do weird things and you may not know it could exasperate the issue until it's too late.
I guess the best advice I can give is reallymlisten to your body and approach it logically and do what is really best and avoid letting the ego allow you to think something is a good idea when its actually not.
thx for the detailed reply. yup, that's my next step - a sports physical therapist but you're right, finding a quality one may be difficult
basskiller89It's trick but you can do that if you grow while you're resting I think it's easier sometimes actually, I took the last 3 weeks off and lifted for 30 minutes each week last 2 weeks
I noticed one glaring omission. Do you have a nice, painful deep tissue massage therapist?
I've tried that a couple times but choose to go the chiropractor instead due to the cost of both. I should look for more Groupons.
You didn't mention if you are natty or not. If not try decca and TB 500. If that doesn't help I agree with Armwrestlingfiend: TAKE TIME OFF! Let thing heal and continue to stretch go to the chiropractor and consider a physical therapist!
Yeah, natty. I've heard about TB 500 and have been tempted to look into it more. True - taking time off may be the only alternative at this point
“Constantly in pain”.. why would you train if your constantly in pain. You have to heal up first or you will make everything worse. Take time off.
I've had one serious injury, I ruptured two disc in my back.
So I have one good piece of advice for you, take it easy and give your body time to heal. If you don't all these minor injuries you've had will eventually coalesce into a back injury, over time your back compensates for weaknesses produced by other injuries. And when you pull a disc you don't have an option its a minimum month off the gym
Yes all those things can be worked around. Tendonitis, inflammation, and lower back pain can be controlled by stretching and turmeric. Just make sure u get them under control before stressing them out over a workout. Light weight higher reps helps me get through the recovery process.
Cold pressed Liposomal Turmeric works in a fraction of the time. That stuff is great for inflammation.
Why not let the injuries heal first then get back at it ?... all I see happening here is a constant injury/ pain if not allowed to heal . Everyone that lives this lifestyle will have setbacks and that’s just part of the game we play... throwing any aas at it isn’t the answer if you’re looking for any longevity in this game...heal up and keep going ...it’ll happen again, and again, unfortunately..learn to know when to keep pushing and when to pull back and take a break ....
yeah, aas wasn't an option, that'll just make things worse. true - time off is the answer for sure.
When I can’t go heavy I go high reps.
I can’t shoulder press so I hit side laterals for high reps 3 times a week.
I can’t squat or dead so I hit hamstrings isolated one day and quads isolated another day.
Fuck right now I can’t bench so I’m doing cable flys as heavy as can be done without pain. I hate to say it but if you want it you WILL find a way. You can do this. It’s all up to you.
Certain anabolics CAN help but I am hesitant to advise you on this as I don’t know your history etc.. but do some research on your options.
Good luck.
yup, I definitely use alternate exercises as you mentioned. really think it comes down to a long break (in the colder months!)
StevebFor tendon problems use BPC157 and for problems with muscles use TB500. I have used both of these but I have been using BPC157 the longest and I'm currently using it now for my shoulder.
RustyhookerIs there a loading phase and standard dosing to assist with those peps? The info is sketchy or hard to find. Advise on starting spot or where to look?
StevebIt sound like you spent zero time looking you came to those conclusions. YouTube is full of videos on them. There are clinics that use them like Titan medical.
There's multiple reputable people who give seminars and long interviews going into detail on how to use them. People like Dr. Rand McClain.
There's articles on pubmed about them is pubmed sketchy? Other countries uses these as medical treatments but they don't here because you can't put a patent amino acids. And they're not new they have been around a long time.