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I have quite a few issues for the past 1-2 yrs: shoulder tendonitis and bursitis, piriformis (hamstring), quad issue, etc. (this probably doesn’t matter but I am female). I ice often, see a chiropractor and have incorporated stretching, foam rolling, diet is just fine, etc. I have been lifting about 75% of what I'm used to and I am not able to gain the muscle I had prior to these ailments; I need intensity and heavy weights. High rep/low weight doesn’t work well for me. I work out 5-6 days/wk; 2 days of upper/lower doesn't promote much growth for me. I’ve incorporated drop sets, super sets, time under tension, eccentric lifts, etc.. into my routine. I’m probably still doing too much volume because constantly in pain (and due for a break). ***My question is, has anyone worked around nagging ailments and what is the best solution to continue to gain more than just minimal muscle or just to “maintain."
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Once in a while when I have been working out hard for a long time I’ll take a week or two off depending on how I feel. Then when I start up again I start making gains again. I do this 2 to three times a year. Your body needs a break. Sometimes
Training too many days per week will catch up with you too. Maybe you should go back to that bare basics for awhile. Hit the big muscle groups only, Quads, Back, and Chest for 6-8 weeks, 3-4 X per week MAX.
it sure has caught up! thought about that too - doing the compounds for a while (maybe a couple isolation lifts but not go overboard with them).
Id hire a movement coach .. the chiropractor isn't going to fix soft tissue issues... you want dynamic stretching etc ... .. yep hire a movement coach you'll be pretty surprised and what they can assist you with fixing
yeah, chiropractor did the deep tissue work in the beginning but it would just take too long to continue. That's something I'll look into though - movement coach. thx
ive got a good one that works via video and email.... social media if you really need one and he's very reasonably priced ..
hmmm, is there a site that I could first take a look at before purchasing to get more of an idea?
of course ... the guy posts free stuff to check out send me a pm
I just sent u a request
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if your injuries aren't going away or getting worse the only way to make them heal is to take time off.
Peptides and supplements aren't going to help. I took about 4 months off in the winter because of an injured tendon in my inner elbow. It sucked but i have been hitting the gym hard again and am pain free and feeling great. Good luck.
StevebWhat peptides did you use for an injury?
I've used BPC 157, tb500, collagen supplements, HGH. I tried everything. I'm not saying they don't work for some. They didn't work for me. My tendon was torn, not ripped. I worked through the pain for months on end. It just got worse and effected other aspects of my life. Turning the steering wheel on my car was painful as was carrying the groceries. I didn't want to listen to my doctor but 4 months of no lifting fixed it. I have been back at the gym and going hard now with no pain or discomfort at all.
StevebBPC157 and TB500 have both worked out great for me. As long as your tendon is still attached it can help it heal.
Im glad they worked for you. I had high hopes. Maybe my injury was a little more severe. Or maybe they did play a role in helping heal it just took a little more time.
StevebThere are lots of peptides out there that are bunk. You have to find a place that sells good quality and hopefully they don't get exposed to too much heat when they ship.
I read some awesome comments in this thread. As a longtime lifter like most of the quys here I experienced several short and long term injuries. If you are injury is not serious or you haven’t developed a tendon condition your problem will clear in 6 months maximum without training and physio, along with supplements good nutrition etc. However if the 6 months passed and you still have pain when you lift then I am sry but your problem is not that simple. These kind of problems are very difficult to treat and require special adjustments to your training. The goal of this adjustments is to enable you to train without pain.In my experience you should never work out with pain.the most important thing is to have the ability to determine whether the pain is real and is not a discomfort.in my case(tricep tendibitis) eccentric exercises helped in minimising the pain competeley and enable me to train with some discomfort that goes away with good warm up. My tendons can’t handle the weight they used to on the pushing movements but I am able to train without pain and that’s the most important. I can tell you with certainty that healing chronic tendon conditions with rest is not efffective
while a last resort, i may think about getting the bone spurs removed in the shoulder area which may help with the pain while lifting along with tendonitis and bursitis. i can work on the other issues for the most part but the shoulder has been almost 2 yrs.
I guess this injury is showed up on MRI so visiting a doctor will be the best solution for treatment. In my case and like any other tendinitis issues, MRI comes back clear and doctors can recommend anything except physio. My suggestion is to do an MRI to see if you have any other problems on your shoulder besides tendinitis. For tendinitis, I suggest eccentrics for 3-4 months along with ice baths. if your tendinitis is severe then your MRI will show oedema which indicates inflammation. Do the MRI, start eccentrics and stop training for a couple of months. Do not train with tendinitis if you feel pain as it will become tendinosis and you will be constantly in pain. there is no other way around it....in my case stretching, Graston didn't help. Sadly you have to take some time off to access your situation before deciding a treatment. All your problems might disappear with rest, stretching, ice, nutrition etc in a couple of months. If not then you need a treatment protocol from someone very experienced. if you live in the US there are several recovery centres for professional athletes
I had 2 level discectomy and fusion in my neck last year. Have herniated disc at L4-L5 and I forget the diagnosis but have problems with right shoulder have had a cortisone shot recently but I avoid lifts that hurt until they don’t. I pretty much don’t squat or deadlift. Terrified to load up a squat bar or my neck and anytime I’ve done deadlifts I reaggrivate lower back and have to take it easy. For shoulder I couldn’t do over head lifts for like 2 months but it’s healed and now I can. Time to time it bothers me but I just do lifts that don’t hurt. There’s ways to work around injuries that aren’t going anywhere but you gotta listen to your body. My ebc pic is proof that you can work around injuries. Sounds like you should take a week or 2 off if you’re not making any progress and reassess the situation. Look into some peptides and gh to see the possible benefits and if it’s something that you could benefit from. Good luck to you on your journey.
jayiskany nagging injuries i have had great success with BPC-157 injected sub-q with a slin pin as close to the injury twice a day. and it actually healed it within 10 days. so it may take up to 30 days.
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and had a disc replaced in my neck. I use to work out 4 days a week. Now it’s only 3 days. I see gains but some days it’s tough. I also take breaks when my body tells me too, a week at a time. I also change up my workouts frequently so that I’m not adapting and don’t have to go super heavy for gains. Hang in there.
Last year my shoulder was bothering me and I started do reverse grip bench instead of regular for awhile.
Shoulder cleared up and I did make some gains.
Bro I’ve never thought about reverse grip I don’t bench anymore cause my left shoulder is fucked up I think I might try this today thank you
StevebI had shoulder surgery so I thought I'd try those out. I tried different grip positions on the bar but they all hurt my wrists or feel uncomfortable and awkward.
What do you bench steve?
StevebI haven't tried to bench in a long time. Instead I do the flat dumbbell press because it's the one thing that doesn't hurt my shoulder at all. I can do the 145lb dumbbells 4 to 6 times.
Try them on a machine with a thumbless grip.
When using free weights I’ve found a shoulder width grip works best.
When I first started I used very light weight but over time it’s gotten close to my usual bench.
I’m just putting this out for any novices that may read this. When using free weight always have your thumb around the bar. Machines woulnt come back on your throat free weights will...this is an advanced exercise use caution.
be careful with reverse grip bench its very awkward feeling and you cant lift near what your used to at first.
but that being said its damn good at activating the upper pecks even more so then standard incline, though I've found that adding a little incline to the bench and doing reverse grip activates the upper pecs even more.
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I’ll just start off with 405 and see how it goes lol
NotNatural23I did the same thing but be careful because I ended up damaging my ulnar nerve by my tricep and elbow area. Good form and low weight if doing reverse grip bench.
Will do
I had the same problem on my left forearm. I have not been able to do Lateral/Front Rise , Upright Row for about 2 months. I also have problems training my biceps and triceps, a crazy pain keeps me away from these muscle groups.
While instead I can safely load on Bench Press, Desdlift and Squat.
It sounds strange, but it's the truth.
I have an epigondilitis syndrome, I still look a little bit before I take other pain medications or anti-inflammatory.
Dam that sucks bro
jayiska neutral grip/Multi-Grip bar is great for benching with shoulder issues. but most gyms dont have one. some people say that using mark bells slingshot helps out their shoulder on benching.
edit- recently was having nagging issues with my right shoulder only when i tried to bench. i switched to a safety squat bar and added in deca dura. didnt realize the beating squats, goodmornings, and pause squats on squat day was taken its toll on my shoulder.
I have half a vial of deca stashed I loved deca
Go back to whole-body 3 x PW - seems to me like you are overtraining, which will result in......injuries. It's okay to train through some injuries, I think anyone who has trained for a long time does that, otherwise you just don't train. But the alternate days off can give you time to repair. Drop down to 60% weight and 12-15 reps x 3 sets only until you heal...just my 2c worth.
I've actually thought about that - trying the whole body 3x pw.
My external elbow has been inflamed (epigondilitis) for more than 2 months but I continue to train like an animal.
We all know that we need to rest and take care of ourselves but often we fear losing our earnings, or we think that that pain can't stop our workouts.
We underestimate the muscular recovery due to an injury, and too often we are lazy in turning to a doctor, thinking that we have everything under control.
I would love to know what's wrong with this comment. The stupidest thing is that you put negative karma without explaining why.
In this site there are fantastic people but there are also many rabbits (with medium-high karma).
I wrote to BFG, mods.... Hoping to get an answer from those who run this site .
I apologize to everyone .
Ace VenturaOr the stupidest thing is that you’re crying and ranting about it, and that you actually messaged bfg and the mods, when it seems like an obvious accident
If I could thumbs up this 5 times I would.
Ace VenturaThank you very much. It’s the thought that counts
There were episodes a few days ago.
That is why I say that it is not a mistake.
Dude, your comment is too instinctive. This is not a mistake , believe me. I'm not crying because I have a family that loves me.
I will give more details in private to mods and bfg.
It does not seem right to dirty the wall to the companion who asks for advice .
StevebI think someone is out to get you
Dude you need to check your estrogen levels, you're acting like a little bitch. I've checked your karma stats, there is nothing nefarious going on. No grand conspiracy, no one is out to get you.
RustyhookerDude youre crying for no reason. Touch screen phones. And theres no neg currently so someone corrected it.
Relax.......
jayiskRusty took a hit for -700 karma points and didnt say a word.
RustyhookerI removed 1000 just because. We all been there. Head high n stride right