posted Mon, 12/19/2011 - 06:18
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ok I'm not very familiar with var and i don't plan on using it. but i have s friend interested in using it as his first cycle. he is32, 150 lbs and about 5'10" tall. he is trying to gain 15-20 lbs and is pretty set on using anavar. now i have told him its not for bulking but he seems to think its gonna do what he wants it to do. he asked me to find out the lowest dose you can take and it still be affective.. i told him i would hell him out just because i feel like he needs to be monitored. so if you guys can give me some insight i would greatly appreciate it. like i said he is gonna use it reguardless he just wanted to know the lowest dose you can take that is still affective.
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nothing worse than fucking up the ol'sack lol, I am looking into running anadrol as a pre-kicker in my next cycle, not to fond of the toxicity levels of it I will just have to be that more extra precautious. Dont beat yourself up about it, you will get so much more respect that you did learn and correct yourself. The 1st cycle I ever ran i run a mix of 200mg cypionate and 100mg prop for around 20 weeks and came off with not PCT or anything, I was around 24 years old at the time and had no idea what i was doing. We live and learn brother, part of living and learning is learning how to live
tread-mJust give him the test only 500 split for 12 weeks advice Pope. And then when about 10 weeks passes after his oral cycle has failed in miserable fashion his "knows more than you" attitude will be gone, I promise. Its at that point he will come back to Pope and say, "tell me more about that test stuff bro"! Do your best and then let him fail. You don't bulk on var either way unless you run other compounds with it and even then you have to eat meat by the grocery basket full and you come to the realization, I need to bulk and then cut, its too hard to do everything I want in one cycle. Get his before and after picfs though for fail blog, it should be fun. We could put your before and afters with it and do a right way wrong way split photo.
Pope you been around longer then me when it comes to AAS you should educate that fuqer big time don't tell him not to do it tell him WHY HE SHOULDN'T. Hes wasting his time,money and hopes. Inject or gtfo.
lol, I know right. he's one of those dudes thats know more than you, Ive been using gear for along time off and on, I cant say im an expert with orals because ive never been motivated to use them, Ive always felt like i can get the most out of the oils. I told this dude he wasnt going to put on any weight with the anavar, I told him he is quite possibly gonna end up losing some weight in fact, I got some for a good friend of mine a while back and he learned the hard way that he needs to research before he does any thing, I saw him start losin weight in his face and everything. Now this dude im about ready to let find out the hard way, he is going to be very disappointed when It comes to using any type of gear, he doesnt have a membership to any gym as of yet, he's doing all his workouts from a home gym and I have told him he needs access to a variety of machines, I have been researching AAS for a long time (mostly oils) and I can tell you Ive still got alot to learn even though I have alot to offer, He has been on this kick for 3 weeks to get some orals, 1st it was anadrol, then it was anavar be cause he says "there no need for PCT with anavar" he says he has been researching so now he knows more than I do, even though ive never taking orals I have read alot about them from you guys, now I wasnt aware of PCT after oral use because most of you guys that take orals are taking oils as well and well PCT is mandatory with oils lol, I really dont follow to much on oral only cycles, I have seen where you taper at the end of a anavar cycle, but like I said, most of you guys run the oils with the orals, mainly using the orals as a jump start am I correct? I dont think i would have any problems knowing how to run the orals but im not just gonna run them without running oils behind it, no sir thats not me, I love my oils and has changed my life so if he wants to be a dumb ass and ima let him, im not gonna sit and argue with someone who doesnt want to learn, But however i will get him whatever he wants because it pays for my shit and makes him look like a dumb ass as well.
Yeah by all means let him take orals only. The dumbass will learn sooner or later I'm happy I was educated enough to man up and do a "TEST E ONLY cycle" first. I hated injections and the thought of them but hey you got to do what you got to do. In fact tell him to take tons of anadrol maybe he will get bitch tits with no pct and his smart ass will have lil tits for the rest of his life.
AnonLook, it is like this.. there is a REASON why people don't just run oral only cycles. 1. gains are HARD to keep 2. Test is the base for ALL aas cycles.. why? Because THEY can and DO shut down natty test production ... ONLY women can run ORAL only cycles and not suffer the repercussions of losing gains and shutting down natty test production..
Pope...it sounds like your friend is going to have to make a choice. Either he wants to do steroids...or he doesn't. Taking a little Anavar for 6 weeks is going to nothing for him, especially after he stops taking it.
He'd be far better off with a jug of Cell Tech from GNC and a high cal. diet.
Anonsorry pope he is going to be disappointed with it and he is going to have to learn the hard way.. it will NOT bulk him up.. period..
I think 60 10mg pills are about 70? plus shipping etc... so the math
If he takes 40 mg a day he will burn this pack up in 2 weeks...so go ahead and do 6 weeks and drop more cash $..
Let him take a fucking beating that way he will learn!! Thats the only way I have learned lots of beatings...
Eric090585sounds about right lol
i agree with pupster,hes gonna gain nothing just on var,it will cost him a mint,the only sides he will get is sleepless nights cos he got no cash left bro,d/bol or A50s if he insists on oral.
AnonI'm currently on 50mg of anavar but started my cycle front loading 40mg of Dbol a day (with 500mg Test E and 400mg Deca which took 6 weeks to kick in)... The gains he wants wont come from the Var... Get him on Dbol - Cheaper and it will deliver.. Var is not for massive growth... Sounds like he needs to do his research a little more...
i tried to tell him bit he obviously he knows more than i do. he is worried about having to go thru pct after a short 6 week cycle.
Eric090585have you tried slapping him around a bit? and if he's even scared of PCT he shouldn't even bother with something that's not sold at GNC...just sayin.
he wants to pills and no PCT..does he eat healthy? cuz if so, tell him to take Permadrol..it's sold on amazon and shit like that. kinda pricey (but not as high as var) and it will make his appetite go through the roof. ( i speak from personal experience). that alone will help him put on some mass and since it's not AAS he won't have to worry about PCT
would he have to pct on a low dose of dbol
Eric090585yep, dbol will shut him down quick style bro
I've never used orals nor have i done any research on them. I'm strictly oils so all of this is a learning experience for me. so i go to the experts
Eric090585i posted blood work while taking dbol only @ 40mgs ED...i think my free test was like 3 or some shit lol and i wanna say that i'd been doing that dosage for 2 weeks when i got the blood work done.
it's like goth said, either he wants to juice..or he doesn't lol
BLOOD WORK HERE: http://www.eroids.com/pics/ukss-blood-work-results-finally
Anonanavar will shut down natty test production also, maybe not completely depending on dosage and length of time used but he isn;t going to keep anything regardless. waste of money waste of time.
2.5mg can already reduce testosterone production by around 50%.
There is no such thing as a mild steroid that doesn't need PCT. That is just wishful thinking some idiot came up with.
Anonthanks for the numbers, I didn't have them on hand and Yes I agree that it is wishful thinking ... some people...
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalink20mg is an absolute minimum dosage. The gains won't even be close to what he is expecting.
Considering how light he his, I'd say he is not going to gain anything. With such a "mild" compound it all the more important to know what your doing regarding training and diet.
Any oral only cycle is generally crap. Trust me.
Eric090585about 60mgs ED...and since that shit ain't cheap he's gonna be REALLY pissed when doesn't get even close to getting the results he wants. he will, however, have spent a grip of $.
like the guy below me said, if he insists on doing an oral only at least tell him dbol. it'll cost waaay less and he'll gain some muscle (that he will prolly loose as soon as he starts PCT) but that's neither here nor there lol