Its worse when your taking orals bro.. More for your liver to deal with.

I have to say I drank quite a bit a while back. But I must say that I am much more focused,happy and eager for every day since i quit. Its a depressant. But the insanity is I miss a Guiness like a fat boy misses cake.

I purposefully drank the weekend before I started to get the urge to subside easier. While I'm on orals I take liv52 and avoid alcohol entirely. With just injectables I will drink socially, maybe 3-4 regular beverages per week. I prefer weed to alcohol anyway.

Not to mention its effects on protein synthesis check this article out. http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/277/2/E268.short

Also I know a good amount of gear users also take creatine so you might like this article as well. I thought it was interesting, http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/creatine-and-alcohol.html

This is strictly from a dietary perspective and what your goals in mind are...
carb- 4/kcals per g
protein- 4/kcals per g
alcohol- 7/kcals per g
fat- 9/kcals per g

What is more imortant is how the body metabolizes these calories... I wont go into grave detail about each, but alcohol is metabolized easily into a simple sugar, glucose which is stored as mitochondria(energy waitin to be burned) if these mitochindria are not burned, they turn into long term stored energy Fat... So basically it depends how important your physique and body are to you... If you are a daily drinker, I think it will be awfully hard to get those bottom abs.. alcohol also dehydrates you, so your body stores more water(bloat) .... I think you should pay attention to the color of the whites of your eyes closely... If they are or do discolor and kind of yellow, this is early sign of liver damage... Daily drinking is not a problem. One glass of red wine is heart healthy 1 tho... It is the amount of alcohol consumed every day that causes people problems
I rarely drink...

fuck im 24, and I drink socially. Sometimes every week. Last week i drank a few shots for 4 nights in a row. WTF!? yea.. this weekend I didn't drink at all.

well...
- gear already raises liver enzymes and BP an alcohol will only exascerbate that
- even the mildest hangover will effect routine
- there is the non-usable calories
- and (speaking for myself) i can be a bit of a prick (as is) from time to time, so add gear + alcohol... yeah, right....

but then again, e-tae-won does have its lure

I have never once heard anyone say, "Drinking changed my life,.............in a good way"

I'm not agains't drinking, (I should be, but I'm not).

When I decided that I wanted to use gear I chose to make some lifestyle changes that would give me better rewards once I started using gear. I stopped drinking and I go to bed every night before 11, even weekends. I pretty much quit anything that would hamper progress while on gear, at least for the time being. While I have only been using gear for a month or so, I haven't drank in almost a year. I don't know if it's extra BAD for you while on cycle, you'll probably be just fine, especially if you aren't taking orals. Of course it doesn't help though.

i drink sometimes twice a week and yes it is bad, after everytime i drink i start to get signs of gyno. try to stop but that only last about two weeks before i start back up. i have ran a couple cycles with out drinking and no estrogen problems i've read that alcohol is an aromatize antagonist that is why you have lower test after drinking