posted Sat, 05/09/2026 - 13:56
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Water vs oil base
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Where do yall stand on water based compounds? I hear pips are more common but onset is faster. It s generally not fully dissolved in water so you gotta shake it well. I wanted to get TNE but the oil is so much harder to find than water base is. Even if I do find it, its grapeseed oil not mct. Id also love your thoughts on grapeseed/other oil if there is one vs mct oil. Any experience you have on the subject would be great.
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Took water based compound now I’m gay
I heard about that. But at least youre jacked. Gay guys love being jacked and fucking other jacked dudes so your options have probably opened up pretty significantly. Lol
I've been using tren suspension as a preworkout with no pip at all. I really expected some, but I guess I've been lucky. I heat up and then shake the fuck out of it and use a 27g 1.5" needle into the dorsal glute. Last week I even mixed it with l-carnitine in the same syringe and still no issue
And thats all water base? You didnt have a problem with the smaller needle?
Funnily enough I have not until today, I think I jinxed myself. But it also could have been the mixture, I was trying tren suspension, test suspension and l-carnitine. I don't think I heated it up enough so I'll try again in a few days
There are a few sites listed here with TNE test no ester up to your requirements.
Water based compounds namely Test Suspension & Winstrol are highly effective. However pip & lumps may be legitimate.
Would recommend pinning w a 22 just to make all the water suspended particles pass through w ease. Also would recommend cutting the product by mixing B12 in the same barrel before pinning.
Well it sounds like spending more time looking through sources would solve a lot of my problems. Im just very new to this sort of thing and the whole process is...uncomfortable lol. Like international vs domestic. Spend double and more likely to get touchdown or cut the price in half and potentially deal with waiting months if ever at all with seizures and ive already dealt with a source that assumes im trying to take advantage of them when they shipped the wrong products and certain things were missing. Being a lazy pothead 15 years ago was so much easier, im just trying to get jacked as fuck bro! Lol I just had to mature, get my life together, and want more for myself jeeze
i understand. I lenjoy the ganja also.
Just remember, getting jacked as fuck does take some time, planning, & effort my man.
You are in the right place.
“ Being a lazy pothead 15 years ago was so much easier, im just trying to get jacked as fuck bro!”
That is the best thing I’ve read all fucking day. I fucking love it
My bitch ass cant pin anything that’s not oil. When was younger I used to pin injectable Winny and although I would be in godmode, the PIP was debilitating…
So I have never experienced pip. Ive read a lot about them but you've experienced it, In what way was it debilitating?
Lump under skin almost like a bone bruise, hurt to sit down (pinned glutes).
This was Winny though
unseen423yah water based inj winny hurts like a bitch
I’d always pick oil based over water suspension. I pin with 30g 1” needles and a water suspension would never go through that. Plus I like the slower release of oil based. Oil based TNE can be found everywhere easily, so not sure why you’re having a hard time finding it
I would be more specific but it would probably break the rules so ill say this. Ive found waterbase-a-plenty but the only oils ive seen are grapeseed and guaiacol. I really haven't done any research on the grapeseed and the other one is even more intense than water base. I know a lot more about mct oil and so I was looking for that but before I even look at inventory I try and vet the source. So im sure ill find it eventually but so far I haven't. I generally use a 25g 1" needle but I was actually gonna try it as a pre-workout. I know a few guys that have tried it and liked it so I thought that would be dope. Is that how you use tne?
Yea it’s only real use is PWO. There’s even some TNE70/Adrol30 blends that are real nice PWO. You won’t find TNE100 without guaiacol, it can be made but you won’t see anyone make it because it could crash and the general gear population has no idea what to do with crashed gear and start demanding refunds for a crash vial. You can find slightly lower with EO (ethyl oleate) only, but some get bad reactions to EO. Carrier oil isn’t that big a deal. Some hold hormones more easily than others. Grapeseed, cottonseed, MCT, MIG812, tea tree oil, caster oil, etc. They’re all just a carrier oil. Some prefer specific ones, because they’ve found their body reacts best to that specific oil and don’t get pip from things in it.
That makes a ton of sense. I was leaning towards water because its wildly available and feels safer but I had no idea they used all the oils. It sounds like I should just get some extra virgin olive oil, some raw test, and throw a party lol. Ive also heard from several guys that Methandienone was a solid pwo
Pretty much all the orals are. And no bullshit some Chinese oil was GCMS’d and it was regular ass cooking oil they brewed that shit with.
That is just insane bro. I cant say im shocked but can you fucking imagine finding that out after pinning? I mean bro....but then you'd have the guy who would only want cooking oil because it "gives him the best gains"
I mean it worked lol. They weren’t getting sick or anything. Carrier oil is carrier oil. Only issue is oils going rancid or oxidizing real fast. That’s why I like Mig812. It’s an essentially a synthetic oil and never goes rancid, so I don’t have to worry about my massive stash being ruined sitting for years and years until I get to a vial
Thats interesting. Its actually just a brand of mct oil that has slight variation in production but considered too be pharmaceutical grade. Thats dope bro. How did you discover that?
I’m a DIYer…and in respect of forum rules I’ll leave it at that
Daaaang bro! Thats the most impressive DIYing I have ever hypothetically heard of. At BEST i can throw together workout equipment with wood or metal. Welding was a bitch to learn but that would be a whole other level.
If you're in the US I know there's at least 3 sources on here with mct tne
That may be true. I haven't ordered very many times and ive gotten off fairly easy when it comes to screw ups and im just being super cautious so the process of vetting sources and labs just takes time.
BUT that said I am also interested in the thoughts and opinions of others when it comes to using a water suspension.