Sorry... another trt dosage/timing/labs question by me.
Trying to avoid getting kicked off trt. Don't want my levels to be too out of whack. I havent touched anything for a few weeks. Did a couple shots of MENT ace a month or more ago.
Since then... I was running 2-4iu of generic hgh a day, I stopped that a week ago. I run 50mg of test prop every 3 or 4 days. I'm prescribed 200mg of test cyp every 2 weeks, or 100mg every week. My new doctor is very cool about everything. My last one seemed to be "looking up my ass" every chance they got. I love my new doctor and would like to keep them, but I also would like to dabble. From what I've seen... I think i only need to give this new doctor labs every 6 months.
I told them I could give blood labs tomorrow, but if I need to, I could drag out an excuse for a couple weeks to a month. I figured my labs should be ok by now tho.
I hope ive been clear...
Im prescribed 200mg of test cyp every 2 weeks.
I take 50mg of prop, every 3 or 4 days.
I was taking 2-4iu of generic hgh every day, which i stopped a week ago.
I took 1000iu of hcg a week or more ago.
I took 25-50mg of MENT (trestalone) for 2 or 3 days about a month or more ago.
I took var for a cou0le days 3 or 4 weeks ago.
I have labs scheduled for tomorrow. My doctor is cool, I can push then back a week or two if I have to. Id rather get them out of the way ASAP so I can get back at it lol.
Hoping someone i trust can bless me with a "you're fine go ahead!" But keeping my trt is > short term gains for me right now so I'll wait as long as I should. Just wanted some more opinions.
Thanks everybody. Hope everybody is healthy and happy
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Why don't you go get private labs done, if all is good , go for the doctors labs.
Everyone body is a little different, steroidplotter will give you a ball park, only labs will give an accurate picture of where your at.
What if your Prop was under dosed or over dosed it changes the equation.
You can easily answer your own question, by going to steroidplotter.com , plugging in exactly what you've done, and it'll show you how quickly each compound has left your system.
I am also on TRT, and I don't want my doc to know I blast. I use that website religiously, to plan when to stop blasting, and strategically do my routine bloodwork for my endocrinologist. It's fairly well-established bioactivity and half-lives, it has never let me down.
So, how did the results come out?
Im gonna give it another day or two. Maybe you can help with this...
One of my concerns... MENT was a new compound for me... and I'm getting older so I'm monitoring my vitals more than I did. I never did lol. My bloodpressure was twice what it normally was after starting that Ment and HGH last month. I assumed it was the MENT. I stopped the MENT, blood pressure didn't go down. So then I figured it was the hgh. Stopped the HGh... it's still high. Idk why my blood pressure is so high, and I'm nervous to take anything over trt until I know what's going on. So... no rush to get back on that cycle, and no rush to get labs now I guess.
Ive got an infected tooth I'm getting removed tomorrow... I doubt that's the cause of my blood pressure rise over the past month but... I don't have any good explinations. I'm just naming what it could be. Idk.
I'm gonna keep monitoring my blood pressure for a couole days. The only thing I'm running is that little propionate.
Could HGH be doing it and it's just taking so long for my body to adjust after discontinued? I know hgh can effect bp... could it have jacked my bp up so high and it's still slowly coming down, ya think?
I understand your concern about keeping your TRT, but you're playing a risky game. You're essentially asking for medical advice while admitting to a doctor you're deliberately misleading. That's not a sustainable strategy for long-term health.
You need to decide what's more important: short-term gains or your long-term health and TRT prescription. If TRT is the priority, being honest with your doctor is the best approach. They're there to help you, but they can't do that effectively if they don't have the full picture. Hiding things only increases the risk of something going wrong and jeopardizing your TRT.
You gotta decide what kind of game you want to play. You can do your own research and manage your own cycles, whether with underground or pharmaceutical-grade compounds. Many do. But that comes with immense responsibility. It means thoroughly understanding the compounds, dosages, potential side effects, and interactions. It means consistent self-monitoring and being prepared to adjust or stop if needed. It doesn't mean hiding information from the one person who's supposed to be helping you manage your health. As for your labs, while you might be okay now, constantly cycling and then trying to time things to beat a test is a recipe for disaster. It's not a matter of if it catches up to you, but when. Think about the long-term consequences. Even if your doctor is "cool," they're still bound by ethical considerations and could be forced to act if they suspect you're putting your health at serious risk.
Sorry i thought I posted this ij the over 40/TRT section
Ive been doing this for two years and I get free test cyp from cvs every month. I realize what I'm doing and the consequences to my health and the legal ramifications. My doctor knows what's up. Thats why they give me 6 months in between lab work. It's more for the insurance company.
Long term health is not my concern. I appreciate your response. I really do.
Im asking if what I'm taking will throw my levels off.
Im asking if I should be ok to take labs tomorrow? Or should I wait a day or a week or a month?
This post is incomprehensible
Sorry.. I'm asking if what I'm taking will alert my doctor to me cycling anything extra
I know what you’re asking. I mean that I find what you’re doing incomprehensible. 50 mg of prop “every 3 or 4 days” is not only basically the same dose as your prescribed test c, it’s also giving you massively unstable test levels (which, to be fair, a biweekly injection of 200 mg test c will as well but you haven’t fixed that problem only made it worse imo). It you want to cycle then run a proper cycle, it seems like your just injecting random shit with no plan, rhyme or reason. Why did you take MENT for 2 or 3 days and then stop? Why are you taking prop instead of your trt? What are your goals with regard to steroids in general? I personally don't think lying to your doctor is a big deal, he doesn't really need to know because honestly PED use is mostly medically irrelevant. What I do think is a big deal is that you don’t seem to have any reason for doing what you’re doing. When I run a cycle I know what compounds I’m using and why, what my training will look like and what my diet is going to be for the next 12-18 weeks. I’m not bragging, I just thought that this stuff was standard for anyone using AAS. If I’ve misread all of this I apologize, I just literally cannot figure out what you’re on about based in what you’re posting here.
Im running prop, I want the insurance companies to see my labwork, and believe that I'm only taking the 200mg of test cypionate every 2 weeks (or... 100mg every week, or 50 mg every 3.5 day etc etc etc ) and nothing else.
To answer your question... sorry i snapped before... but... ive posted about this already here... but... that's my fault... you don't follow everything i do. And you're kinda new so... I started a cycle about a month ago... I started running ment, var, hgh... I stopped the cycle after a week. Ya following? I get Vials of Cyp from the pharmacy that I save. I was running prop. Bc I like prop. OK? Yes, you're exactly right... I'm running 50mg of prop because it is the same dose as my prescribed test C as you said. Ding ding ding. I'm trying to pass my blood test. I stopped taking everything else. As I said. Idk what I said that was hard to understand. Sorry if I sound snappy
If your dose is the same, you should be good to go. This is’t WADA doping control testing, they’re not looking for your test/epitest ratio or metabolites or anything like that. It’s a simple blood test to make sure that your test, e2 and other health markers are in range. I prefer prop as well but the half life is around 24 hours so if you’re waiting 3.5 days between injections you’re not getting consistent levels. I would suggest every 48 hours at most. This isn’t just me saying that my way is right and your way is wrong, it’s important here because 24 hours after taking 50 mg prop you might be way above reference while 96 hours after you could be well below it since prop clears so fast. Just something to think about. The only other thing I can think of is that the hcg could potentially raise your e2 but in that case I would just tell your doc you took hcg, I doubt he’ll care even if it’s bot prescribed. On the other hand you could just feign ignorance which will almost certainly work.
My man! Yeah I thought the hcg would fuddle something up... I'm pretty sure it's been at least 2 weeks since I took any hcg but I think i did take 1000ius (i usually do 250iu 2x a week. Maybe once a year, or as needed). I assumed after a couple weeks it shouldn't be active, but I'm just guessing, that's why I'm asking.
Ive inly been running the prop every 3.5 to 4 days bc... I haven't been active in the gym. If I was more active I'd be pinning every day or eod at least. I run prop bc it's cheap. Fast. And I can save my pharmacy cyp, ya dig?
Yeah I'm just trying to slide in with passable numbers... as long as my free/total come in range, I think I'm good. Plus the other markers. I think I'm good I'm just trying to get 2nd/3rd opinions. I'm not familiar with how hcg and hgh effect labwork. This is the first time I've really given hgh a go. Ive got enough for a year. Stopped for these lab tests. As soon as I get the ok, I'm gonna start six months of hgh n probably cycle some primo and anavar. Maybe kickstart it all with this ment idk. And yes I know to use testosterone! I may try Trest with no test. Labs always! Pre, mid, post ;)
Jesus christ. This is why I don't post on here. I know my posts may seem all over the place. Although... you did say that you understood what I was asking, so I don't think i was that far off.
Anything you post online these days gets met with the scrutiny of... having to prove you earned the right to use these precious compounds and the right to even ask for help... stfu bro... I was asking anyone over 40 on trt how to cheat a lab test. Thats it.
I have not been taking my Test cyp from the doctor. If I haven't been clear.
I do not take my prescribed test cyp. I take prop in place of cyp. Save all my cypionate.