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Best PreWorkout Androgen

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Hello Family! I am curious to know everyone’s experience with incorporating a pre workout androgen and there experiences this can include orals and injectables! Please feel free to write about experience, dosage, if it’s oral/injectable. And how long before a workout you would take it and benefits like strength gains, dryness, side effects, libido changes. Appreciate everyone’s responses

Patshiv7's picture

Awesome, will definitely check it out, does TNE increase estrogen? I know it’s short acting so idk if it just spikes or if it’s full on increasing if only used 2/3 times a week.

Rosschestzip's picture

Ya it can definitely cause some estro trouble but tbh I’m not sure how long that effect would last, if you were to use it a few times a week you’d want to probably keep an eye on it or have something in place

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Patshiv7's picture

Going to be utilizing it on EQ cycle so will be okay with EQ lowering E2. Will incorporate the injectable androl on Tren e and test cyp cycle

Rosschestzip's picture

Ehhh I wouldn’t be so sure bud. It’s very unpredictable, and eqs ability to be an AI also isn’t so stellar. It could work out smooth as pie or it could be a nightmare. Tne is not some walk in the park especially using it regularly, it recommend only using it on certain trianing days, you might have some trouble trying to keep up stable doing it more than twice maybe three times week. Maybe a weak body part or big heavy workout. Also the EQ will take forever to start having an effect.

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Patshiv7's picture

Definitely! I have some test prop and dbol on hand as well if I feel low e2 sides, wanted to keep a stash of preworkout orals and injectables on cycle to switch it up inbetween using dbol/tne . Running hcg as well to keep e2 balanced. I used dbol first time yesterday and I felt so amazing, pump was ridiculous and so far bloods are looking good I’ll be incorporating the EQ end of month. TNE will be incorporating during leg days mostly for now

Rosschestzip's picture

I can almost guarantee you won’t have low e2, those are great to keep on hand in the “first aid kit” in case it does get low but your most likely going to be high not low but you’ll just have to see

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Patshiv7's picture

Awesome! Plan is to front load two first weeks at 600mg and than drop to 300mg and go from there. How much have you ran before?

Rosschestzip's picture

Eq or test? I’ve done like 750 eq and right now Is the most test I’ve ever done at 1,000mg but for a long time I only ever ran 500-750

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Patshiv7's picture

Front load EQ at 600mg and than go to to 300mg week 3 and so on. I just want more of the cardio benefits to help cut out for summer almost under 15% body fat and it’s been a long road haha I was 270 two years ago and been wanting to have some formation of a visible core, just feel genetically I hold most my fat on belly and sides. Test I’ll keep at 600mg during cycle. Have Dbol I’ll use inbetween along with hcg 250iu eod

Jockstrap's picture

Caffeine and video of 'I command you to grow motherfucker' .

https://youtu.be/JHiKDa4ip_Q?si=loU4wzcp2FroFBD-

DeeMan's picture

Ya gotta listen to his cousin Junior story.... PENITENTIARY Style workouts. Dudes a trip. Look at my comment to 23 Sparta below.

NWApatches's picture

Can't stand CT FLETCHER. Big ole dummy if you ask me. Dude acts like he don't know the name of gear he never ran. Id like for him to be in his prime so I could run up on him

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DeeMan's picture

Lol yeah he did act like he didn't know and it was obvious but to me the dude does motivate and not two many guys could out curl him in his prime I'll give that to him. Ok bench but he was well over 300 pounds.

press1's picture

Ohh No No No No!!! You cannot seriously like this Gobby, ranting IDIOT Lmao

Jockstrap's picture

Idiot made many record lifts. His in the face shittalking gets me aggro too. Lol! So my aggro butt then pushes harder. Gotta work that mental game imo. Watch priest workout vids or whomever gets you focused then its hoodie, earbuds and ftw. Smile

press1's picture

The Real professionals in my opinion are the guys who stay silent and are completely focused and zoned in on the job at hand, no distractions or carrying on, no unneeded energy expenditure shouting and using up oxygen or slamming their body around. Get to the bar, pure focus and then BAMMM all that pent up power and kinetic energy is released into the lift.

Jockstrap's picture

I gotcha...understand. His shit talk amps me up and i cant punch the screen. Lol

23Sparta's picture

I just watched it….. I trained arms every day and they’re gonna tell you you’re doing it wrong, they’re gonna tell you you’re overtraining…. Man, fuck your overtraining. That dudes a G

DeeMan's picture

Like I told Jockstrap that dude is off the chain especially when he was younger. Check out his cousin Junior story. I grew up around a few guys like that. Hell in fact a few of those guys are no longer around and one of those guys did 20 years and was released last year.

23Sparta's picture

Yeah, I the fuck science mentality in the gym. If one of my bros calls me up and wants to hit chest, and I already hit chest the day before…. idgaf I’ll blow that motherfucker out again.

DeeMan's picture

Savage mode!..Penn Style

23Sparta's picture

Currently running one spicy chicken and one McDouble 20min pre workout

wanted's picture

Spicy gets me everytime.
Im more of pin anything and get the placebo effect

23Sparta's picture

I've been know to dabble

press1's picture

LMAO Do you get the Spicy Chicken sandwich over there too?!! With lettuce and the pepper mayonnaise on it. We get the McCrispy too which is chicken coated in hard as hell breadcrumbs which is pretty awful. Double cheeseburgers are one of my favourites, great post training food Lol Bring the BEEF Baby!!!

Rosschestzip's picture

Our Mccrispy is amazing, it’s just the 7$ chicken sandwich instead of the 2 dollar mcchiken. It’s like the fancy one

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23Sparta's picture

We do got McCrispy? I’m gonna run one and see what yall talking about

Oh yeah, @press1 I ate that readybrek stuff. It was good, like cream of wheat but from oats. I just used water though and added frozen berries and honey

press1's picture

Yeah Readybrek is Great isn't it!!! LMAO

How on earth has no one mentioned the Filet 'O Fish yet??!!! Those things ROCCKKK!!!! Extra Tartare sauce on it too finished off with Fries & Chocolate milkshake

23Sparta's picture

Readybrek was delicious, but expensive. I think that stuff came from the UK or something. The box looked funny and had weird words on it. I gonna find a porridge that’s cheap, local and start eating that stuff regular. I bet it gets you big.

Oh yeah, Filet O’ Fish. Damnit those are good too. Now I’m gonna end up spending $30 eating at McDonald’s tomorrow

press1's picture

Yeah Right - You'll be there tonight!! LMAO

Readybrek is really aimed at young kids to get them eating well in the morning at a young age, then you tend to find adults progress into proper porridge. I use to love putting loads of sugar on the top of it too and together with the hot milk it all blends into a tasty concoction Lol

23Sparta's picture

Naw Press, lol, I can only eat McDonald’s pre workout for real. I’m training tomorrow so I’ll stop by and smash those two sandwiches and go straight to the gym

Lmao, what are you saying? Did you suggest readybrek to me in order to teach me on how to eat well in the morning? You want to make sure I get all my vitamins Press? I didn’t know you cared so much!

Rosschestzip's picture

Ya so the regular one is like chik fil a, with just pickles but the deluxe is lettuce tomato and mayo

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23Sparta's picture

That’s it, I’m smashing one Thursday pre workout

Rosschestzip's picture

I’ll usually get the deluxe or a quarter pounder if I feel like having a pound of sodium

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23Sparta's picture

Well, now it’s gonna be a filet o fish and McCrispy off me tomorrow

23Sparta's picture

It has lettuce, idk if has pepper mayo on it or not. lol, idk what a McCrispy is. Don’t think we have that.

I can only eat that stuff preworkout. If I ate it post, I’d feel like a fat ass lol

press1's picture

In terms of Tablets pre workout, 30mg Dbol I think is the best - all the others make me feel tired like Adrol, SDrol, Var etc. Test Base is the best pre workout injectable, even better when mixed with DBol or Adrol in the Vial. You do not want to be dry when training especially if you are looking for strength increases - thats how tendons and muscles become torn and snap as they lose elasticity if they do not have enough moisture in them

Wildling's picture

Dbol 10mg or Sdrol 5mg about a hour prior. 100mg TNE about a hour and half prior.

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Patshiv7's picture

Interesting I have these blend tabs that consist of 25mg dbol 25mg anadrol 10mg win, how long before I’m at gym would I have to take them?

Wildling's picture

Peaks in about a hour imo

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Patshiv7's picture

Awesome, I always wonder how half life is incorporated to the effect of feeling it physically

DeeMan's picture

@anvil did u just tell this guy you're taking 5 mg creatine?!!! Lies lies lies! U sound like those guys u despise who claim lower than low dosages lol

Nah man what u said is true about GH.
Guys use to say 2IU of GH is worthless but I've always disagreed on that. Depending on the person and quality of GH.

DeeMan's picture

Damn in the eye! That's gotta hurt. You're one hell of a man! Lol

Patshiv7's picture

Interesting! I havnt used HGH thought maybe incorporating it when I’m off cycle for health benefits. I am super sensitive to cialis my pills are 10mg, and the gym I go to in south Florida has way too many hot girls, I tried it once and I was hunched over walking around trying to hide it. With creatine i was always curious to know if your running compound like eq or primo will being on creatine keep you with less water cus those compounds lower e2. Will definitely try to incorporate those! Is 10mg bar a sufficient dose you feel to notice anything? Or is it more noticeable in long term?

23Sparta's picture

Truth. IM also is much more consistent in the amount of time it takes to enter the blood stream and become active. Subq can vary between different injection sites depending on exact placement and fat content

Patshiv7's picture

Interesting I never knew you could do that, havnt tried HGH yet, thought about incorporating off cycle for health benefits

23Sparta's picture

Imo gh is mandatory. Once you jump on you’ll see what I’m talking about

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