posted Thu, 06/13/2024 - 00:00
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Currently on a test e /mast e/primo blend 200/100/100mg and suffering from the worst pip I’ve ever had, pinning 2x week last pinned Monday and it’s so bad I’m struggling to put body weight on it never mind train legs.
What’s the best way to combat this? In the past with pip I’ve just got used to it in time but this is awful, there’s no infection or anything like that so I’m not overly worried, could just do with it being a bit less painful. I’ve got a vial and a half left and it wasn’t cheap so don’t really want to bin it
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I know that some friends tolerate MCT oil-based compounds much better than those in thicker carrier oils like grapeseed oil. Higher concentrations of the active substance also tend to be more painful. For example, Test E at 300 mg/ml will most likely cause worse PIP than Test E at 250 mg/ml. Overall, as others have already mentioned, you can try warming up the oil to make it less viscous.
Ditching the high potency blend would probably help. They have to use more aggressive solvents to make those which can hurt. Also just the stronger solution is going to cause more pain since the compound itself can cause pain depending on what it is.
Warm up the oil before injection it helps a lot.
Might try increasing frequency while also cutting with a sterile oil. I was doing test 400 3x a week with mct and it basically got rid of pip for me. Without the mct oil however pip was pretty brutal.
AK80The 1st best way to combat that is to pick the #2 or #3 USA source next time. The 2nd best way to combat that is to keep using what you have, but inject in a different spot with a less amount using a 1/2" x 31 gauge insulin syringe. Either way, massaging the area afterwards and applying a heating pad to help disperse the oil should help.
I find when doing higher milligram blends that breaking them into daily injections helps with the pain. If there is any PIP it's very minimal and gone within a day or two. I read that alot of people warm vials up before and it helps. I never tried that way but would if I got PIP as bad as you seem to have it.
I completely eliminated PIP by wrapping the vials in a heating pad until they’re basically too hot to hold. After that, I also cut it down if needed with grape seed oil. I also got a bit better on my injection technique. I was able to completely eliminate pip and able to use things like susta500 with no PIP.
Try warming the oil before injecting
Try cutting the concentration with sterile oil you know you do well with
Try injecting smaller volumes of it more frequently
Try each of these and maybe a combination of them and see what helps the most and continue with that protocol.
If nothing helps then you’re just going to have to man up and take it or stop.
Try an antihistamine 30 minutes before you inject, does not stop the pain altogether but it helps. I was injecting test e 400 which was a killer and there was a difference when I took the antihistamine, it became bearable.
AK80Careful with using the pink Benadryl unless it's at night since those will make you drowsy. All others that aren't diphenhydramine should be OK. 10mg of loratadine (generic version of Claritin) is a nice choice. AllerClear from Costco is one such brand.
I do my injections at night when I got more time so the drowsiness is a welcome bonus.
anvilDepending on the solvent and carrier oil used you might have to suffer through. What gauge, and where are you pinning?
If you are doing 1ml per time you can also get some grape seed oil cut it with that or split into 2 sites.
Heat the vial using a candle warmer before drawing, for the pip itself there's a video about wrapping red cabbage leaves with saran wrap over the pip place which i haven't personally tried but here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Ii7Wjt8v4 , I personally use a massage gun post injection and warm showers and Reparil gel which does work best for pip.
I can't imagine walking around with cabbage leaves taped to my body
That's a first, interesting video
Lol facts it'll look weird , will try it if experience pip though xD