Finally, the day has come! Thank you all!
12 years ago I made my profile here and thought I should run gear at 18 years old.... Thank you all for convincing my hard headed younger self otherwise!
Fast Forward 11 years to november 23, I broke my left ankle very badly paragliding in India. multiple bones in multiple pieces and doctors won't operate and tell me I will never walk properly.. I'm not going down thet easy and see my shot to finally try out some peptides. BPC157 and tb500, 250 mcg of each twice daily, with CJC no dac 100mcg and ipamorelin 250 mcg 3 times a day. 6 weeks cycle start at the 3 months mark of my injury, I was mostly in bed unable to walk without crutches or put any weight on the foot. After 2 weeks I ditch the crutches and my healing is progressing much better then expected. The entire 6 weeks I've been going to the gym daily. First 2 weeks getting down to my bike in the basement from 3rd floor on crutches then strapping my crutches to the bike and biking slowly 3 km to the gym. When I finished the 6 weeks of peptides I decided it finally was time for me to get into roids as I have wanted for a long long time. Time was never right, either too young or i was traveling and enjoying life or focusing on being a father for my kids. So I started planning for a high primo cycle. 1 week ago I started on test E 350 a week (50mg daily) and proviron 2x25 mg daily. I have aromasin 5 g, proviron 5 g, and nolva 5 g, raws on hand. I'm also running another cycle of CJC and ipamorelin at the moment. At the 4 week mark of test I will add primobolan at 700 mg a week and maybe some var as i have that on the way as well. I will run this cycle for 20 weeks. Wish me luck guys, I have been very patient reading for many years and my workout routine and diet are very well dialed in -- already 1+ week In on the test and proviron 3 days in. I'm feeling the effects and I love it! Very exciting stuff, can't wait to try the primo and var! I was thinking of doing 1 g primo a week, but on Reddit I was met with lots of negative comments about not knowing what I was doing. So I reconsidered and thought I would start with 700 primo. Hopefully I will not crash my estrogen 
I'm not looking to be the next Mr. Olympia, just recreational. Would like to get big and feel good at the same time.
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What a bunch of turds you guys are ----
We're not turds, we're old folks that see only one right path and you're wrong... At least you're laughing about it
Looking at your profile you are eating a purely “plant based diet”. Are you getting enough protein? It’s obviously difficult in that respect, but needs to be in check or all of this cycle talk will be almost irrelevant.
If you want to pin everyday, you really missed the boat on just running a solid test prop cycle for 8-10 weeks.
Is this a joke or for real?
You guys really gonna stick to that old saying? It's like a copy paste habit that never dies.. 4 weeks of pure test will be enough to be sure my body I fine with it before adding in Primo. Then waiting another 4 weeks before adding in var. It's so Weird many old folks just se only one path as being right any everything else being wrong. At least I can laugh about it
Oh, the hubris of youth.
The young seem to know it all, strutting around with an arrogant swagger, demanding rather than requesting, knowing rather than seeking. But scratch the surface, and what do you find?
I am not young enough to know everything. We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us or spare us.
You reach peak saturation at ~6 weeks running longer esters. So actually no, you won’t know exactly how you handle test only at 4 weeks. Some more aromatization will happen in those 2 additional weeks to see, once you’ve stabilized, what sort of AI schedule you’d need. Then you add in primo before knowing your balance of test/e2 normally, and then not knowing how much primo effectively knocks down your e2 for future cycles knowing your ideal ratio of test/primo. You’ll just be chasing sides not knowing what is doing what. I won’t even get started on your use/choice of orals.
But it’s cool. We’re old and stuck in our ways. You clearly know what you’re doing. Have fun and do what you want, but don’t come back here asking for advice mid cycle. You lay in the bed you make.
anvilYou gotta love this stuff - So this was his previous cycle from what he had posted, I am old but I would love to see you post a current picture. Take a look at @SeeOhShow pics, the guy is a peeled beast. I listen to what he has to say always. You can take all the gear in the world, you can't put diet and hard work in a syringe.
yearly summer cycle
This will be my third cycle.
I know that my first cycle was just stupid..
5 weeks of dbols and oxy, no liver support.
My second cycle was a bit better, 10 weeks of 400 mg test e a week.
This time I spent some time studying the potential of other stuff then the classic test/deca.
This is what I came up with.
6 weeks of proviron 50 mg a day then down to 25 mg until week 20
15 weeks of sust 175 mg a week
15 weeks of deca 125 mg a week
15 weeks of dihydroboldenone 200 mg a week
15 weeks of primobolan 400 mg a week
6 weeks of 25 mg dbol a day (5 mg tabs)
Week 19 to 22 nolva/clomid 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 + hcg.
And liv 52 the first 10 weeks
Would I meaby need some aromasin?
It’s like the 19 year old, 160 lb social media “influencer” telling a 225 lb chiseled freak he isn’t training correctly, or like they say, “optimal”…
anvilLOL Optimal, I love this stuff buddy.
You and you alone can laugh about it and we’ll laugh at you when your 35 still under 200 pounds and running 3grams a week and can’t figure out where you went wrong. Your gunna gain 10-20 pounds first cycle if you do everything right, why do it with three drugs when you can do it with one? Or do you think each drug will give you another 20 pounds each? Fuck your liver, your heart AND your kidneys I don’t give a shit
It’s the More, More, More….instant gratification mindset. Fuck it I’m 3 weeks in and haven’t blown up, let’s bump this shut up!!!
Dude waited 12 years and he’s fed up, there his gains and he wants them now!!
It’s the implying everyone was gonna answer with “copy paste” like it’s a myth that holds no weight. All the while implying by week 4 he would have already felt the full power of the test. Then the icing on the cake condescending “old folks” like he’s 21 years old. Plenty of guys on here at or near his age that would challenge his argument. Oh yea, he’s laughing too because he’s right and everyone else is wrong.
Me and him are like the same age lol. And ya all hell know at 4 weeks is if he’s allergic to the carrier oil lol
Actually is not a cliché saying, there's a good reason which can be very advantageous to you. The reason is that if in fact you haven't done a cycle yet, you don't know how you're going to react to let's say 500mg of test. Some people are hyper-responsive to test and 500mg is all they need to get huge results. Are you one of those people? You don't know!!! Because the only way to know is starting at a moderate dose. On the other hand maybe you'll see that you are not a hyper-responder, in that case is almost certain that adding Primo(not the strongest compound) and Anavar(also not the strongest) will be a complete waste of time. If you didn't see shit with Test alone you sure as hell wont see much with Anavar and Primo. I would start with 500mg of Test alone and if you see something good happening then add something like NPP which is a very good muscle builder. Testosterone is king, don't underestimate its potential my friend. But this is just my "cliché" opinion.
I mean, you know you opened yourself up for it. Personally, I think you should add something else.
So after reading for ten plus years you still didn’t learn step one?
Step one: Always start with a Test only cycle of 400-500mg once you are ready to start cycling.
Ding ding ding we have a winner!!!!
(Or they could even go lower if they wanted)