+ 5 Just an idea, should we all donate each month and get some products tested on our own for everyone’s benefit?
So recently there’s been a lot of worry and discussion with new sources popping up, trusted source not being so trustworthy anymore, and discussion of gh quality concerns across the board. After talking with a few guys I/we have thought up a little plan. Here it is: So every month we’d all donate whatever we can or a set amount, idk yet, to a testing fund. Once a
Month we’d pick a source and a product to test and send out. It’s a little pricey for some tests and we all want it done so there’s no reason for ten of us to pay for the same results when we could just pay it once. If you donate that month you’d get to vote on what we test that month. If there’s extra money maybe we could test two things that month. There’s definitely need to be some ironing out of the logistics of how it would be handled and who’d do the shipping and what not but I’m just trying to see if this would be something guys would be interested in doing?
Would you be interested in getting together and getting products tested on our own, and having members donate and choose which product to test?
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AK80If HPLC machines weren't so damn expensive, we could all do it Ryan Humiston style! Looks like we're stuck with Janoshik and ROIDTEST™ for now.
So everyone that says yes is thrown into the pool? So if there's 30 people everyone pays 1/30th etc? Sounds like a good idea if enough people do it the price could be pretty low and in the future more could join lowering it even more. The problem might be just what is tested. I guess start with most popular compounds and brands and go from there.
Well it would be a little more cause we’d have to factor in the cost of the product itself also. But as of right now, there’s nothing happening with it. If I organize a way to do it off the site I’ll let everyone know, or if someone else wants to do it , they are more then welcome to organize it but it just can’t be on this site.
I think it is a great idea.
A few possible problems which should be addressed:
- A tester being paid by a supplier.
--- Solution? Entrusting a trusted member of the community who shall be the tester.
- The supplier knowing which order is made by the tester, and makes sure they send real gear.
--- Solution? Using different delivery addresses each time.
--- Solution? Using a different trusted member of the community each time.
- Test lab not being trustworthy. Some say some test labs always give back positive results.
--- Solution? The members paying, vote on which test lab to use.
--- Solution? Test a test lab with a test sample that doesn't contain the tested substance.
Might come up with more later.
Thoughts?
The problem with the testing lab thing is there’s really only one lab that’s doing testing, at least that I think we’d have access too. Which honestly wasn’t even one of my concerns. It’s obviously a concern but I’m afraid it’s one well just kinda have to live with. People have sent him empty things before and his results are accurate, I believe. The problem is people are concerned that sources are contacting the lab ahead of time and basically paying for favorable results. I think as a consumer the lab can be trusted but the lab results that sources show us should be taken with a grain of salt.
As far as everything else goes, there all good ideas but unfortunately we won’t be able to use any of them cus we won’t be moving forward with this idea unless a single member wants to start something on there own. Eroids can’t have a thing like that running in their site, which I understand
Does it need to be a site? Maybe we can just start with a telegram channel. Later we can move towards a site if it's a success.
Ya telegram is a great idea
The cause is a noble one. Let no others say it is otherwise. The problem is anonymity and the internet. It only takes one bad actor. If a way should be come up with, I would support it.
Ya I thought it was a good idea, maybe I can come up with a site that can do it, like members pay a small fee and get access to all the test results, cus let’s say we all want to know if “billybobs gh” is any good there’s no reason for all 300 members to pay 300$ a piece to get it tested, as long as it was trusted we could have one person test it. But i already knew there’s be an issue with this site not being able to endorse it but I figured if we did it on our own it would be ok, but I understand, it’s all good. I just gotta think of a way it could be done on its own site. Cus it wouldn’t work to just pay ten bucks to get anything you wanted tested, it would have to be some kind of voting system but then if something you didn’t vote for gets picked you wouldn’t want to pay so idk, I’d have to iron out some kinks but some day maybe I’ll make it work on its own site or something
anvilPay first then vote is the way to correct that issue.
Oh ya for sure, but I don’t think that people would be happy with at that system if month after month there paying for tests they don’t want. So we’d have to have a top ten to pick from or something
If you create a website, I will provide a donation for the cause. I also like the idea of a majority voting system. One way you could do it is by voting on which brand of test, anadrol, tren, etc., each having a selection of 5-10 manufacturers with which one could vote for. It would at least narrow down the specific compounds being tested rather quickly. It would be easier to start with the top 10 sources, as well as the most popular compounds, and then go from there.
No good deed ever goes unpunished. Good idea but money is always the motive. Friends fuck friends over for that money. Like the great WWE legend “The Million Dollar Man” Ted Dibiase said, “EVERYBODY’S GOT A PRICE!”
This is just a review site. If you want to coordinate that, it'll have to be somewhere else other than here.
Roger that! Mission aborted
As good as the idea is mate, there is the potential for a lot of things to go wrong and people possibly vanishing with money - it shouldn't happen but it does, and loyalties to others can literally disappear over night.
Ya I know, I’m just not like that, so I tend to not think that way and foresee other people doing it. like I’m not dumb and very street smart but if I’m not dealing with “street” people, like gangsters, criminals, homeless people, addicts and people like that, then I’m not really expecting people to pull that kinda shit. But you tend to learn “normal” people can be worse. But ya it absolutely could’ve turned to a shit show, and it would’ve been one fuck wad to ruin it.
A few years back one guy, who tested more products from his pocket than anybody I've known, suggested something like this because everyone was pressuring him to do more and more testing. Once he said people could send him donations for testing he received shit from all directions. It was interpreted as he was in some way to profit from that and if he was to profit from the testing by taking donations he sort of needed to become a source and pay to be here as a souce who was willing to be scrutinized, questioned and reviewed as any other source would. Which makes sense, because as we know anybody in this world can be subject to bribes and be bought to favor anyone. Our reviews and constant scrutiny is what keep sources competent and fighting to be at the top offering the best products, prices and services.
Ya but I don’t think anyone should profit from it, who ever we think is honest and trustworthy to do it, will not make any profit, at least I don’t think they should. When they order the product, sometimes sources send freebies, they could keep those and whatever loyalty rewards points and stuff like that they earn from sources could also be a benefit to the person doing it. It’s not a lot but making it a volunteer position keeps the integrity of it. But letting them keep the extra product is like a little thank you but not enough for people to accuse them of being in it for the wrong reasons.
I think it can be done, but it cannot be only one individual. It would have to be like a "testing board" or "group" where all the member of this board become part of it by the votes of the community. A closed group of 5 or 7 who will meet constantly and choose in secret what will be tested and inform the community about the findings.
But still is not easy, because every time money is involved it will bring controversy.
When an order is placed, the source has no idea who that person is on eroids. A group could be made, once that’s done, someone could be put in charge. Only the people in the group would know who that is. Every time a product is tested, it could be shared amongst the group. From that point on, a different member could post the results for each product and nobody outside the group would know who is actually getting the testing done.
I prefer to stick to the tried and true unless credible members endorse a product. At my age, every cycle counts, so 10-16 weeks on subpar gear isn’t worth the discount. Thank God for Eroids, because back in the day I bought whatever was around.
Ya At first I said the same thing, then I changed when I saw some cheap ass hgh and couldn’t resist and then some cheap everything and got that too and now I’m getting sick of all the bullshit and am going to probably just gunna go back to sticking to highly credible domestics. To much nonsense and fuckery
Yeah, any extra great deals always gives me the creeps
Ya I’m usually pretty good at sniffing out bullshit but I must’ve had a stuffed up nose that day or something. Like there’s this car wash by my house that has 30 employees that just stand there all day, I know there something weird going on, almost non other car wash can even afford to have employees, most are automated because there’s not a lot money being made but some how this place has a small army washing 5 cars a day for 30$ a piece, it just smells super fishy to me. And the day they’re in the newspaper after being raided by the feds I’m gunna say “I knew it!!!!”
I’ve been thinking the same thing
The thing you need to think about is drawing attention to yourself. As purely “consumers”, you’d be crossing a line collecting payments etc. and painting a target on yourself if you’re the “organiser”.
For me the whole making sub standard gear just doesn’t make sense. Materials only reflect some of the cost for sources, a lot of the price tag is behind the scenes / operational.
I do like the idea of us collectively pitching in and doing testing to help hold sources accountable. Again, the premise of this site is just that. The logistics of it will be the tricky part to iron out
Curious how long does it take to send out a product and receive results back?
Going off @press1 comment, it might be selfish but I almost feel like you’d have to collect a monthly payment and be in the club to reap the benefits of the test results.
What like only share the results with guys who paid? And idk about testing time, I think it varies based on how busy the guy is, I know it’s overseas so I’d say at least ten days just because of shipping, I think I read somehwere he had said two days from when he receives it, I think, or I could be wrong. My guess would be like 14 days
Correct, I only thought of that to try and make sure everyone’s pitching in around the same. You would also have to make sure who ever receives the test sample stays anon, or the source may juice up the sample if he thinks it’s going to be tested and broadcasted.
I definitely do think it’s a great idea though, and it’s worth a shot!
Ya I o my just thought about that, like if we say “ok this month we’re testing ABC” then the source sees an order come in from one of the guys who like runs our little testing group or something, he’ll know to send them a “good one”. We could maybe have two guys running it. One guy handling money and one guy dpi my the ordering and sending out for testing and that guy stays anonymous so the sources don’t know who’s name we’re buying it under, they’d have no choice but to just send all eroids members top of line gear lol!!
Its a great idea and I am sure many would be interested to see the tests on various products, but the issues you are going to run into mate are things like who is going to be in charge of the cash fund, people will need to reveal their personal info most likely, chasing payments each month etc. Great in theory if everyone sticks to their part of the deal but it could be tricky.
If we use cashapp no personal info will be involved. Just post your address and accept the money.
Bro you gotta register a bunch of personal shit with cash app
I mean for us to send him the money. All we would need is his cashapp address. We should make a group and once everyone is in that wants involved, that person could post their cashapp address and the people in the group would be the only ones who know it.
Ya but he means no one will see it, which he’s right about but my concern would be LE getting the code and being able to dig into who setup the account and all that. But just posting the code itself I don’t think will give your info away to any regular person who clicks it
No it will not. Social media “influencers” post their cashapp address all over everything
Ya that’s true
Yes that’s exactly where the issues will be, also if we share a code for the donation it will have to attached to that person legal name and shit which is tricky but that code would be posted publicly on the site, so we might have to operate through pm’s for the money part. It would have to be like a group of our most trusted memebers or something. There’s definitely logistics that need to be ironed out, but we’re in the baby stages here lol
Like the idea. Like doing a random audit
Ya I mean most of the test results we see are from the sources them selves and those are the super reliable sources that no one was really questioning anyways. The other results we have are from members but there very rare because they’re expensive. So every month to have a verified and trusted test done on that months top or favorite source would be very helpful and over time we’d build a pretty good backlog of test results that we know weren’t posted from fake accounts or a source working out a deal with the lab or something. There’s been several new sources with very cheap hgh lately, guys are sinking in a lot of money because the deals are so good and we have almost no tests on any of them, maybe one? It’s like 350$ or something to test hgh, and that a lot for one guy but not a lot for 20 guys to kick in and we all benefit from that one result, it’s not like we each need our own. And just one more way to hold source accountable, if they know we’re doing our own testing, especially on new cheap sources running promos, they’ll be less likely to fuck around