+ 5 Covid vaccine, blood clots, particles, cleansing.
This seems like an interesting topic and one of concern for anyone who has had the vaccine and their families.
Before the vaccine was fully out, there were already Dr's and researchers pushing out that the vaccine would cause a lot of deaths within 2 years. They were mostly brushed over but now we've been seeing it left and right, people dropping dead who are seemingly healthy, athletes, actors, etc. Jo Linder came out a month prior saying he had his blood checked and there were particles forming, he was even attempting to clean his blood with plasmapheresis treatments (basically dialysis for your blood).
Has anyone who has had the vaccine actually had their blood checked for particles and clotting, done any cleansing or know people who have been possibly affected negatively by the vaccine?
Let's keep it civil, this isn't about politics, it's about us as a community of health, fitness and body hacking enthusiast, coming together to share opinions, problems and possible solutions to a concerning issue.
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We’re all different. There will be another Polio. Look at the timeline, polio, Spanish flu, smallpox. We’re lucky we got along as well as we have. There will be another. And most of us will survive. Unless we just don’t. You know, because we all die… lol
Our open border isn’t helping that cause. CDC will have their hands full in couple years. I have a “family” member that works over there. He’s 25, had all his “childhood required vaccines”. Just contracted a “measles” variant out of no where. Reportable of course and required quarantine. Worked at a chicken plant btw. Crazy.
Everyone want to go to Heaven but noone wants to die.
It’s not a choice, enjoy whatever it is you enjoy while you’re here. Within limits of course lol
Well too bad.
All I know is that my doc said I probably would have died if I wasn't vacced and boosted, and I tend to believe him based upon how sick I got even after all the vaccines. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Vac probably saved my life right now but are side effects from it going to kill me 10 yrs from now? Don't really care anymore, got bigger fish to fry.
A good outlook. Life is tough if you get scared buy a helmet.
I'm going to start wearing a helmet and a mask
I thought you would already have a full body armour suit to go with the 50 cal sniper rifles?!
It is political I can tell you what your beliefs are by you even posting this nonsense about one guy getting some blood cleaning done. First off going through something like that can cause clumping or clotting or blood. And where are all these people dying left and right. Haven't seen or heard it. Jo Linder had multiple underlying health issues unrelated to the vaccine. One which caused enlargement of heart which anyone with excess of muscle doing steroids dangerous diuretics insulin and who knows what else affects the heart. We all as weight lifters or people who do AAS and have excess muscle need to get ultrasounds to check for left ventricular hypertrophy as it is common because our body needs more blood to keep our muscles oxygenated. We don't need another Rustyhooker especially from a source on here who makes his political beliefs known. Sorry but this is what it is another way to stir the pot and force you unfounded beliefs on people.
Also I will say this not everything is safe for everyone and everyone can have some rare side that others don't get but a rare side and big population of people dying or getting something is different. No one talks about the half a million people taken to the ER every year for Tylenol overdosed but that happens or other stuff that cause harm we eat every day. Red 40 yellow 6 all causes cancer but most people aren't talking about that. Why no political agenda for someone to push. This is the main reason why we talk about the vaccine the COVID one. No one was talking about the Small pox and all the other vaccines except for the very few people who didn't believe in it but they had those diseases pop up in their communities. Anyways this topic is old and we need to move on from it as this isnt the place for this. There are many other websites you can go to if you want to talk about this and spread your views on others.
You are an another example of this new generation. What a dam shame
Actually, this is exactly the place for this, this is the off topic forum. You're welcome not to be a part of it or you can just continue to be butthurt by people having open discussions. Whichever you choose, good luck to you.
No one is forcing anything brother. You can simply choose to not read it. Or maybe, not respond. Being able to say things that others don’t agree with is the literal foundation of the constitution of the USA, which is where this is hosted from. Having the freedom to not consume content or respond (or not) to what you read/see is wonderful & I’m pleased you get to enjoy it. While you obviously are offended by a strangers opinion on something you personally deem unfit for this forum, you are not the sole arbiter of what’s appropriate here (luckily for us). This is a very decisive subject that deserves to be discussed by those interested, & simply ignoring it is poor form. There are many people falling ill & losing their lives for what many (including health professionals) believe are direct effects from the vaccine (it’s worth mentioning that it isn’t a vaccine, as it contains no dead or impotent portions of the virus). I would suggest that anything garnering claims that big is our responsibility to discuss.
Well said….
That's right my dude! Regardless of ones opinion we all have the right to it. Proud to see someone else uphold that ideal.
Yeah man, we’ve got to be able to hold uncomfortable discussions sometimes. I have a great deal of respect for this site and the members here because of this kind of conversation.
I worked 70hrs in nursing home during whole covid. People died with vaccine, people died without vaccine, people got it vaccinated some people didnt get it vaccinated. I went 3 years exposed "within 6ft for over 15min" and didnt get it till couple month ago. I dont think there is a rhyme or reason to it and noone really knows the answer. None of us do
So far all of the comments have been open to discussion, no judgement on either side, only conversation. It was friendly, gives chance for growth and personal opportunity. Your comment isn’t that. You’re aggressive and closed minded. You’re not open to any discussion or willingness to accept that you’re mistaken. I wake up and approach my day and any conversation I have with an open mind. I practice humility in my life. You should learn to be humble. And go to the washey washey. A little humility goes a long way to those who have forsaken their dignity to afford themselves a better situation. Be a gentleman in everything you do in life, you’re not being a gentleman.
Buddy this guy works in Hospitals and has seen Covid patients both vaccinated and non-vaccinated and has seen the results first hand, none of us here have. We have watched the News and read the Internet mostly. You simply cannot dismiss his experience of it all and tell him he's wrong. He will of seen many die on a daily basis and no doubt has strong views and experience on what works and what doesn't.
Nope.
Man like I said folks can be upfront witnessing but seeing different things. That's just the way it is my man. Doesn't make my experiences or Joe Blow's experiences any more right than your's or vice versa. Just saying. I'm sure you can understand
I have gotten the scoop on this since day one. All of my in-laws (they are sisters) their are 12 of them I married into a bunch of clucking hens too. They have told me the numbers are lies and that they have yet to encounter a healthy individual that has succumbed. That is like the only point they agree on. Good God listening to them get together is something else LOL.
And that may be true for them and I don't doubt them. But for others it's a different story. But yeah folks have definitely died. I want to say most had some kind of health condition already but you never know. Some say death numbers were blown out of proportion but others disagree with that.
You can stir the pot and have an elevating conversation, or you can create fake accounts and have an emotional breakdown.
Dude this has been discussed time and time again and it gets old this site is not for this. People pushing thier beliefs on us with these posts is ridiculous. They are taking a guy who has died and making it their way of pushing an agenda on us. The first thing that came out about his death was the vaccine not what real evidence about him says. Greg you aren't neutral in this though because your beliefs are with the OPs. So you should have no say in this because even though you are a mod and I respect that you can't be a mod when you have skin in the game. You have your beliefs and they line with the OP. All I am saying is this gets old when a person with steroids has died there have been certain members on here who come out and say it was the vaccine. That is all I am saying and without knowing really what is going on with someone's past health history and other stuff it is spreading lies. Like with Jo he had so many underlying issues along with his heavy steroid use with unsafe drugs and other stuff. But instead of us talking about being careful with AAS and other stuff we have members totally disregard that and blame the vaccine which is absurd. So who is open minded now. What we do is dangerous if we abuse it and don't get bloods and follow our health. So next time a guy or bodybuilder dies it would be nice to have someone not say the vaccine killed him or cause it.
I just read this comment. Not taking sides because that's not my style but I think Greg's issue seems to be with the way you are approaching the situation rather than him just taking sides on the issue. I've never read his stance on the issue of covid vaccines but maybe that's because he's never stated his view on the issue.
If the topic ran its course no one, including you, would see fit to make a remark. Obviously, you have a perspective you want to share. Just do it respectfully. If it bothers you, stop reading. All the data on this thread, these ones and zeros, take up less space than found on the head of a pin. There is plenty of room on this site for off topic discussions.
Think of it this way. The off-topic forum is the pub where coworkers go to bond and get to know each other. It is part of the glue to this community. Even if it appears divisive at times. Hell, I'm closer to my brothers because we did fight and argue at times.
Nowhere have I indicated my position on this exact topic. He's not saying the vaccine killed him, he's asking if anyone has noticed a causation. I asked the ER doc and MA the same question when I got shingles after getting the second shot. The answer: No one is recording the data. What? they basically said don't ask don't look. A year later, google it and there is a strong correlation. So yes, discussion is important.
Some say that Atlanteans built the pyramids. If you want to discuss Pre-prehistory, aliens hiding behind Jupiter, the fake moon landing, the CIA killing RFK, coved came from a wet market, and that we are living in the Matrix. Go for it.
I love this ^^^ You’re a great mod, man. You don’t post a lot, but it’s always well thought out.
Greg and I have very different views on many topics, to include the ones you outlined in your other rants. The difference is that we respect each others opinions as exactly that. No one is here trying to convert you...
p.s: we all know about the secret base on the dark side of the moon.
Bro, the only thing that you put in your bio for your 3 week old account is “open minded”. You may want to rethink that.
I’ll send you $100 by the means of your choice. Hold up a white paper that says QWERTY eroids in front of you shirtless. I’m curious of 6’4” 265kbs at 11% bodyfat. The only thing you can gain is $100
Wow. That dude below. Omg
Look at this dude....cartoon characteristics!
Kinda an Elmer Fud look
Didn’t bugs bunny bend the barrel up so Fudd shot himself in the ass every time? Lol
So look I see this bothers you. I've said from the start that NO ONE knows that man's cause of death. Our speculation could be somewhat accurate but yet still not direct. I have no idea why he died. There a few different factors to consider. Not sure if final autopsy has come out but until then no one would know for sure. Just speaking on Joe's death only. I admit alot of guys just knew his cause of death though..they were certain.
I have no idea what killed Jo but from my experience and what I read from other doctors speculating not one has mentioned the vaccine. Hell I could be wrong and if I am then I am and I will admit to it. Most have put it on his autoimmune disease or the gene mutation along with his use of AAS and other things. The thing is and you can research this is certain people who get more muscle we are at a greater risk of getting left ventricular hypertrophy which is enlarging of that ventricle. It gets bigger due to the amount of oxygen we have to pump to our bodies or muscles now. Might explain why some people are meant to be bigger muscular wise as their hearts can compensate for it where others can't. This is all assumptions by some doctors who look at this. Some doctors called his death a perfect storm but unfortunately an autopsy I don't think will tell us if his gene mutation or steroids or the vaccine killed him. Now I would love to see what the heart come back looking like because that could most likely give us a pretty good reason. Could show years of scarring and years of disease in it. I just don't like that when a bodybuilder dies some people go right to the vaccine. I would love to think I am doing AAS safely and maybe I am but that doesn't mean it isn't hurting me or isn't causing damage. To be honest all people doing AAS need to get an ultrasound done and get some ejection fraction numbers to determine if our hearts have any damage. 3 months bloods should always be done. Get yearly physicals and once a year get more in depth blood work. Make sure we don't have PAD or DVT or any type of disorder that puts us at risk for clots or strokes etc. Just all of us who do this and if we care about living into our late 80s or longer we need to do these things and if we have anything then days of AAS are over or else we will be looking at death soon also.
I won't rule out anything because it could of been anything from the various factors we've all heard about to be true.
I lost some pump as I’ve been back on TRT dosages for a couple weeks now. A fine trim 215 an 6’1”, just took a pic at the tanning salon. I’ll post with zero shame. This guy isn’t who he says he is and I’ll crypto him $100 to prove. Who doesn’t want $100? I do…
Damn. You are positive about that aren't you? Money money
Yes. And I’ll post todays pic I sent my wife. He won’t follow through. It’s $100. I got it
Here them crickets??? Lol! I wouldn’t expect him to take you up on this offer, LOL
If you work in the medical field and hold any certification or degree from a college, you would know and accept we all “look at death” every day. I’m really not trying to be a dick, but you’ve said things that let’s me know you’re parroting a narrative.
"This site is not for this"
This FORUM is though....hence the header "OFF TOPIC"
Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Vaccine debate on whether its a good or bad thing, work or doesn't work. It's happened, its been, it's gone.
There’s absolutely no need for it to, but I do still enjoy to hear both sides. It’s important, the fact can’t be denied that a lot of young healthy people are having health related events, many resulting in fatality. It’s not coincidence, and I did have the two course of Pfizer, only to meet job requirements. The second dose put me in Covid symptoms, which was hypertension which I suffer from. My physician said “there’s nothing to worry about, you have to take a couple days off from work, lay down and don’t do any strenuous activity, and double up on your amlodipine.” That sounds like nothing to worry about for sure. And it doesn’t work. I had covid before I was vaccinated, it sucked but I’ve had worse colds. Fuck Covid, fuck the vaccine, fuck government mandates. Look people, if you wind up sick, depending on the affliction, there may be treatments, there may be be experimental treatments, there may be no treatment. Wasn’t too long ago when 40 was old age. Just live your lives and be happy, we ALL are going to die. Period.
I agree it's over and it's gone so there shouldn't be a debate. No one absolutely knows 100% about the vaccine, heck not even the government lol and that's facts. Yes if you look on any lysol spray can you'll notice that one of the viruses is corona so this virus is nothing new, just a different year and mutation. No one is looking for a fight as we all have our thoughts. I just think no one's thought is absolutely 100% right as evident by some folks getting the vaccine with no issues and others actually having issues from vaccine. So we must NOT ignore one fact and recognize the other fact. Both are factual. I do see alot of folks making this a political topic and honestly it's not, it's a life or death topic. Again everyone is entitled to their opinion, however I don't force my opinion on anyone else. I'd just rather all be heathy and safe.
LOL Next you'll be telling me you smoke cigarettes?! But cancer won't kill you right - something else will?
I do smoke. I used to drink alcohol to what would be put on my records as chronic. I make decisions in my life, we all do, I’m ok with my mortality. I make the best decisions I can to stay safe but enjoy life at the same time. The Covid issue was the first time in my 47 years of walking this earth that vaccines were mandatory that didn’t work. The argument of Polio, Smallpox, etc, those are vaccines. They protected you. When the Covid vaccine came out, the FDA and CDC in the United States changed what the legal and accepted definition of what a “vaccine” is classified as. It’s a fact bro. I’m vaccinated, I’m assuming you are. We’re vax bros. There’s zero protection from what either of us were injected with.
Vaccines don't mean 100% protection. Though the COVID vaccine prevented you from dying or being hospitalized. I seen it first hand over 95% of non vaccinated patients at hospitals in 3 major cities were the ones sick and about 5% who had the vaccine were vaccinated. Repeat patients was about 98% non vaccinated and 2% vaccinated. So long term COVID was almost exclusively in non vaccinated patients. I have seen it first hand it has nothing to do with what I believe and if the scientific data was different then so be it. I believe in science and the truth and I seen it first hand.