posted Sat, 04/08/2023 - 11:24
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IGF1-DES vs IGF1-DES(1-3) confusion
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So does anyone know what the difference is between des and des(1-3). when I look up what they each are individually it says DES is missing three amino acids at the n-terminus of IGF-1. But the description of DES(1-3) says the same thing, so I assume it's just the (1-3) is the long way of writing out the name and they're actually the same thing, but then I see a certain manufacturer/source selling them both separately and the price difference is more than just a couple of dollars. I haven't checked other sources to see if any others have both but I know at least one does. If anyone has any idea what the difference is or can say for sure they definitely are the same thing, then that would be cool. Thanks guys!
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Same thing. IGF-DES is or DES(1-3) is just IGF-DES. You have IGF-Des and IGF-LR3 which are two different modified versions of IGF-1. The half life of Des is so short that in all practicality is not very useful. We are essentially talking minutes here. LR3 is the one that is most often talked about since it is much more useful with a half life approaching 30 hours. Basically it is IGF-1 on steroids to put it in layman's terms. Both IGF-1 and IGF-LR3 are useful tools that a bodybuilder can actually use and benefit from depending on your goal. They both have pros and cons so they fit different scenarios on how to best use them for what goal you have in mind.
Why do you think that source had both DES and DES (1-3) as separate products, I’m pretty sure they were both 1mg too
Yeah both are same thing. Glad you didn't fall for it.
I would be very suspicious
Well that’s the only reason I was so curious is when I looked them up I got the same definition for both so I was like wtf I’m missing something because they had different prices too. I guess a way for them to charge an extra 20$ for the same thing
Lifted-presence92Very few sources have actual igf if considering it do extensive research I’m talking about probably 3 source have legit stuff.
Triceratops is also right don’t fall into the stupid peptide trap.
I thought LR3 and DES were legit IGF-1 just modified for the time it takes to breakdown or whatever. I thought it was all the other shit that was BS like ipamorellin, ghrp, bpc, Frag and all that. and id only consider it because of how cheap they are but if Incralex is the only real shit then i wouldn't do it cus that shits expensive. and from what ive read IGF can grow cancer cells more then HGH does so if its not way cheaper then gh I wouldn't even consider it.
Basically those other forms of IGF are synthetic modifications of it. IGF Lr3 and des (1-3)were created to basically increase IGF1 half life so yeah you are correct. The half life of IGF 1 is very short just like pure testosterone half life is short, hence those modifications. However the cancer factor is 100% a turn off for me. Also GH is way more economical price wise from what I've seen.
TricepatopsThere are peptides of IGF 1 or des and they are a waste of money. If you are going to use it use rIGF1. I wouldn't touch the peptides period and if you have had cancer or prone genetically to cancer be careful using IGF.
Makwa or someone else can tell you more as they have used them both.
I thought those 2 were real IGF just modified to last longer, but if its not then fuck that, i think all of those other things are a waste of time. besides maybe the ghrp 2 or 6 but id only use those for the appetite increase. I mighty actually look into those because eating more has always been my issue. but the lack of research makes me nervous.