posted Tue, 07/28/2020 - 03:38
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PCT after one year blast and cruise
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I did my very first cycle last October then blasted and cruised for almost a year now. I just turned 34 and want to come off everything to give my body a rest, just concerned that my test levels won't come up after the pct.
Has anyone in their 30's come off everything (including test) and managed to get their test level up to a normal range? If so, what was your protocol?
Here is mine:
HCG 5000iu total (first week- 2 shots 2500 each)
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20.
Clomid 50/50/50/50/50/50
thanks
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Here is my peak blood work. Valley bloods coming next week. I only included the out of range numbers. PCT coming next. Thoughts? Are these numbers extreme for a couple of cycles?
Comp. Metabolic Panel
BUN 25 (HIGH)
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 26 (HIGH)
AST (SGOT) 52 (HIGH)
ALT (SGPT) 60 (HIGH)
Lipid Panel
Cholesterol, Total 91 (LOW)
FSH and LH
LH <0.3 Low
FSH <0.3 Low
Testosterone, Free and Total
Testosterone, Serum >1500 (HIGH)
Free Testosterone(Direct) >50.0 (HIGH)
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 8.1 (LOW)
Clear ur body. Give it 6 weeks or more.
Then run hcg for about a month
Do blood test to see if test levels got high enough. (If not you can up dose and repeat and retest)
This proves your testes can deliver... or not
Then let hcg drain, prob take 3 weeks maybe more (for test levels to drop)
Then run clomid, 50mg pd. Give it a month
Then test bloods to see if lh fsh are high enough, and if test has risen appropriately again. Go longer if this fails. Retest.
If all of these things work. U then drain the serms, min 8 weeks, let natural levels eventually find themselves after you are drained.
About 6 months after you stop serms, test bloods and see where your recovery is.
Thats PCT.
Update - After my peak and valley blood work my Endo asked if I want to have kids and if I do in the future I should come off TEST all together and would give me Clomid for 6 Months. Thoughts?
Hey Giardap,
Just to confirm a few things and my apologies if I'm not fully understanding.
You're saying 6 weeks after my last shot I should run HCG for a month.
how much HCG a week?
Then wait another 3 weeks and run just Clomid 50mg per day for a month depending on if my levels increase. No Nolva?
Then wait for the Aromasin to clear.
If I have a spike in estrogen during my pct shouldn't i take Aromasin?
thanks
Check my hcg101 post for discussion on dosages (depends on how shut down you are)
You can run nolv if you want. But stop it early as it has a 12 week clearance
If you spike estro use aro, but you shouldn't in such a short time and without testo. But if u do, then yes aro
Bloods for proof each stage works. Once proven, its up to the body to restart and balance
I was going to get bloodwork done after my pct but I can now if that's recommended.
Oct - Jan cycle:
week (1-6)
Test Cyp - 500mg a week
EQ - 600mg a week
Tbol - 30mg Every training day
Proviron 25mg ED
Aromasin 25mg twice a week
week (7-12)
Test Cyp - 500mg a week
EQ - 600mg a week
Proviron 25mg ED
Aromasin 25mg twice a week
Feb & march
250 test a week
May - July
week (1-6)
Test ent 250mg
Primo ent 250mg
Mast ent 300mg
Anavar 50mg ED
Aromasin 25 twice a week
week (7-12)
Test ent 500mg
Primo ent 500mg
mast ent 300mg
Anavar 100mg ED
Aromasin 25 twice a week
Molinin302Thats a lot for a first run, but have to give credit for being honest and thorough about it. Theres no need to harp on whats already done. Giardap just gave you a solid protocol, follow it. Only time will tell. Best wishes bro.
Molinin302Yeah, what Sam said. More info is definitely needed. But to be frank, if we're talking since last October you ran a cycle and blasted and cruised in that 9 month time frame, you blasted and blasted really. Post some bloods along with what you ran, you'll get some great advice here.
Here is my peak blood work. Valley bloods coming next week. I only included the out of range numbers. PCT coming next. Thoughts? Are these numbers extreme for a couple of cycles?
Comp. Metabolic Panel
BUN 25 (HIGH)
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 26 (HIGH)
AST (SGOT) 52 (HIGH)
ALT (SGPT) 60 (HIGH)
Lipid Panel
Cholesterol, Total 91 (LOW)
FSH and LH
LH <0.3 Low
FSH <0.3 Low
Testosterone, Free and Total
Testosterone, Serum >1500 (HIGH)
Free Testosterone(Direct) >50.0 (HIGH)
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 8.1 (LOW)
What was your cruise dosage?
After a year don’t expect any miracles.
Pct is not a guaranteed treatment. If you blast to long or run to many cycles eventually you’ll end up on trt.
250 a week. Are you on trt?
don't conflate blast and cruise as TRT.