+ 4 What happens to carrier oil?
I’ve been wondering, what happens to the oil we inject? This prompted me to start digging around and doing some research. It has been surprisingly hard to find a clear and concise answer, but essentially the conclusion I’ve come to is that the oil is absorbed by the lymph system. I found a study that tracked IM injections of radioactive sesame oil and Viscoleo in dogs (1). And it talked how it makes it’s way to the lungs, but luckily we inject ourselves with no where near the level they did on the test dogs (1ml/kg). This made a lot of sense when you think about tren cough and getting that taste of guiacol on your breath after a shot of TNE.
BUT this didn’t really answer my question, how is it processed out of your body? Filtered out by the liver is what I would imagine happens, but I’m having trouble finding a clear answer.
The other question I had was what happens to SubQ oil injections? I did subq TRT for a couple months before My blast and noticed that when I did a lot of cardio or had a very caloric intensive day/week that the lumps of subq oil disappeared at a much faster rate. Conversely, when I had a lazy week or ate more calories than I should have that the oil lingered for longer than normal. Is subq oil eliminated in the same way, or can it be consumed by the body in a similar fashion to the way adipose tissue is consumed by the body? Can the oils be broken down and used for energy if not taken orally?
Looking forward to learning what everyone has to offer on the subject, thanks!
1- https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0773.1979.tb02404.x
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Google carrier oil im injections absorption You will find medical text upon text on how the oil is absorbed in the body.
Sub -q goes into adipose Tissue the it goes thru your lymphatic system and then into your bloodstream I guess that’s why some carrier oil cause you to itch and break out cause some of them have higher level of benzoyl alcohol which is a skin irritant but when you inject Im it goes straight into muscle and directly into blood stream hence bigger spike in testosterone levels vs sub q slower but more steady test level
Alphamale500This is a great topic, and it's something that I'd actually like to do some more research about to completely learn every aspect of.
From what I do know, the oils, solvents etc. are basically processed through the body like anything else you consume, just as is said below. Regarding the length of time it takes for absorption, I.M. injections are processed faster than sub-q injections. That's because there are more blood vessels and therefore a greater blood supply in your muscle to process the oil, than there are in subcutaneous tissue.
But this topic really peaked my interest, and I would really like to know the oils exact route from the injection site to where it's expelled from the body. So this is gonna be my research topic for today, lol!
Excellent topic!+
Good thinking. But the question is why sometimes you can get sterile abscesses so oil pockets. No infection, sterile ones....
find an answer myself...https://news.uams.edu/2016/02/25/abscesses/
Abscesses can form wherever the body is fighting off an infection. For example, a skin abscess can appear when germs get into the body through an opening in the skin, like a cut, insect sting, or burn. Some abscesses are caused by an irritant like an injected medication that was not completely absorbed. Since they’re not caused by infection, these kinds of abscesses are called “sterile” abscesses. Sterile abscesses aren’t as common as infected abscesses, but they can occur on occasion. People who are obese, who have diabetes or have a weakened immune system due to an underlying illness or medical treatment are more likely to develop abscesses, although everyone is at risk for one. You might be able to sense fluid in an abscess when you press on the abscess with a finger. A red, tender swelling that arises over a period of one to two weeks is a possible symptom of an abscess. You may also have a fever or a general sense of not feeling well.
Alphamale500What did you mean where you wrote above;
"find an answer myself..." ?
I didn't purposely ignore you or anything, I just didn't see it right after you wrote it.
RustyhookerNice!!! The bodies system of protection is pretty awesome indeed. Watching the removal of sterile abscess is a trip too. +2
The oil is simply absorbed by the body gradually, and I imagine the BA and BB you take are just processed like anything else you consume. It does seem like some oils take longer to dissipate than others. The thicker ones take longer.
Alphamale500+
I think I stored it in my love handles.
Lmfao.... now it makes sense why I'm still struggling with them, no matter how much bf I drop
Haha I got like 100mls on each side.
I remember trying to find this out too some time back and was basically told its processed just the same way as if you were to drink some sunflower oil etc. Broken down by the liver and either burnt as energy or stored as fat. Something I've started to wonder lately is if its bad for you to use a lot of Acetate estered compounds with it being so acidic, such as test or tren ace. You can almost imagine it rotting away your insides after a while.
It would take a lot though, if so.
I think it probably makes it a bit safer running Tren E than Ace if thats at all possible lol
Can be easily deduced from basic medical knowledge: most of the oil is metabolized locally (or stored in local adipocytes which would convert the faty acids in the injection oil triglycerides mainly into 16-18 C fatty acids) as oil is not water soluble and thus would only in minute quantities leak out from the fatty conglomerate caused by the injection and are then metabolized by all cells all over the body (hence the radiotracer studies) after the fatty acids have been split from the triglycerides. In addition, due to slight tissue compression there is some cell death and very small amounts of inflammation happening (symptomfree) that would cause a few macrophages to be attracted which would then phagocytose and metabolize some of the oil. Basically: it is just "local calories" for whatever cells there are
RustyhookerAnd even stranger was finding out cholesterol is needed for the body to produce testosterone after all the warnings on cholesterol. Everything in balance...
You are likely referring to the fact that statins have been shown that they tend to lower T levels, but this is only partially true. Steroidogenic cells can produce almost all the cholesterol required by themselves if appropriately stimulated (in this case if stimulated by LH). The only steroid producing cells that likely require plasmatic cholesterol as a "supplement" (in the form of LDL) are adrenocortical cells that need to produce loads of cortisol during times of intense stress (e.g. infection)
RustyhookerI was referring to testosterone is a cholesterol
https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/how-its-made-cholesterol-pro...
sub q is absorbed more slowly, and even more if you inject where there is more fat, for this reason the timing of absorption was different, the same thing also for gh
RustyhookerYour body absorbs it. Its an oil. Problem is the solvents on high mg gear. Extra pip, extra scar tissue, etc etc