posted Mon, 06/17/2019 - 08:53
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Found my old stash of epistane, H drol and S drol.
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We recently moved and I discovered a stash of ph's I had forgot about. I know a lot of people hated on prohormones and yes, there were some seriously dangerous and terrible ones out there and a lot of mis educated people using them. Super drol is no joke for sure but thank God I never had any sides when taking it. But out of all the garbage out there SD, Hdrol and Epi were legit in my opinion. Probably not going to mess around with any SD anymore, well, maybe this winter but the H drol and Epistane are definitely tempting. I'm on trt and on a mini blast of 600 mg of test only right now so I might finish up with some epistane. Anyone else still using epi or hdrol? I don't think they are easy to find anymore.
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Dominick77I personally wouldnt touch them even. However the Halodrol, if made by a specific brand (80-90's italian bodybuilder from NJ) That I would make an exception for, but essentially its just turinabol.
Dominick77Yep Yep. That man was about his supplements. Sent a chemist overseas (ol bruce kneller) and picked out top shelf ingredients and sold it legally, made fortunes. Smart businessman and outworked his genetics in bodybuilding.
StevebOver the counter liver destroyers.
I used all of them. SD never gave me too many issues. But the Hdrol and Epi have been passed by; so I'd simply run some good GEAR!
Did you very have on cycle or post cycle blood work done while running SD? I had bloods pulled after a 3 week 20, 20,30 mg/day run recently and I will never touch it again. My cholesterol was so far in the shitter my doc was wanting to put me on meds and it is usually perfect. Add to that my kidney and liver function was shit and I started throwing up blood mid-way through week 3 (immediately discontinued use) and it was enough for me to say never again.
I never really thought it was all that bad to me because I didn't experience many of the nasty physical sides that people talked about but seeing my blood work a few weeks after coming off was an eye opener.
I had bloods checked last week and everything was back in range and I didn't end up on cholesterol meds thank God
I agree on running better gear, but SD didn’t give you issues and halodrol did? Maybe we got different shit. I’m not saying it’s safe cuz there’s no studies on it to my knowledge, but halodrol didn’t even raise my liver values over Norma range. Grant it I took 750mg of tudca with it but still. All blood markers where fine after 4 weeks. I can’t say the same for SD after just 2-3 weeks.
Not for nothin but I think people are giving SD a pass just because UGLs sell it. I use SD, but it’s super harsh and there isn’t good research on SD either. Halodrol was sold as a prohormone, but like superdrol it was a steroid in its own right. Just much milder in effectiveness and sides. I researched the shit out of it before I used it, as it was my first venture into PEDs. And to say it’s worse for you than SD is bananas.
That said I’d still stick to the tried and true like var or tbol over Hdrol, simply because they’re more effective.
I recently did a 3 week Superdrol run at 20,20,30 mg/day and it will be my last. Made incredible strength gains but midway through week 3 I was feeling like shit overall and started throwing up blood. My cholesterol and liver values were completely and totally fucked after 3 weeks off. Definitely not for the faint of heart
Wow, that's insane. That sucks man. That was some serious SD. Like I said I've run it 3 times and never had one single issue. But I've never gone higher than 20. Usually 10 to 15 mg is enough to put on some serious weight. Maybe the raws are stronger now. Hope you get better soon bro.
All good now bro. I had bloods pulled last week and everything was spot on after being off a few months. I nerver really felt the sides all that much prior. This was the first time I really felt them but the blood work is what scared me. I agree that 10-15 is all you need though.
I liked hdrol. I’m too mature to fuck with it anymore. Plus I have turinabol money these days.
Truth! Love me some T bol. Pretty much the only aas oral I would run again. Most beneficial part is that it frees up more testosterone. And doesn't aromatise. If I don't use the hdrol or Epi I'll probably order some T bol.
Amen to tbol money! Lol
Trash that stuff. Stick with the real deal. SD is probably the only one I would keep.
Totally respect your opinion, and yes most ph's were garbage. These were my favorites because of the sides to gains ratio (even on SD) and none of them aromatise so nice dry gains. Much less sides (even on sd) than d bol or a bombs. Just my personal experience. I haven't used an oral in 2 years anyway, generally stay away from them but for me they work so well so it's been hard to not use them here or there.
Halodrol was like a milder tbol if I remember right. I only did it once before I touched AAS but I liked it and it didn’t fuck with my bloodwork so seemed genuinely mild.
Haven’t done any pro hormone other than H drol, but it was mild and effective. Couldn’t hurt any more than any other mild oral considering your experience and size. That said, I personally stick with traditional mild orals now cuz we know more about them.
I don’t know much about epistane.
As for superdrol, that’s a straight up steroid, that ain’t no PH lol. Harsh as hell tho, so as you know keep the dose as low as possible for as short as possible. I ran 10mg (5mg morning and night) for 3 weeks and that was enough for an extra boost and some extra size. I may try 15mg ED next fall if it doesn’t kill my appetite. That did raise my liver values though, even at that low dose and a gram of tudca a day. I think 3 weeks once a year is my max on that.
Some of the UK guys may have a better answer for you, I think they still make h drol and Epi over there. At the end of the day I don’t think I’d use a PH again.
Good luck
You can still buy H drol and Epi but to my knowledge there aren’t many reputable companies you would trust enough to buy them from.
Also real tbol is cheaper from uk sources on here than the H drol or Epi.
You are correct sir, hdrol is basically a milder version of tbol. If I'm not mistaken some of it actually converts to t bol. But it's a ph (steroid) on it's own. Got decent results from it in the past.Epistane is a milder oral as well. Verry dry / lean gains. If I had to compare it to anything it's like a poor man's Anavar. Really good finisher. And SD is no joke. Nothing has ever put on the weight like that. I've rannit 3 times and then last 2 times was 10mg a day for 3 weeks and easley gained 15 lbs each time.