No sir. Offing yourself should never be considered in life. Ultimate loser shit.

I had a graft done recently and the docs told me getting angry would blow it. I was vomiting after surgery and it held strong. I think it’s important to clarify timeframes for how your seam will progress. My graft was super susceptible to blowing the first three months. I’m about five months out and can tell when I’m pushing too hard. My docs say after a year this thing will be invincible.

I hope your doc or docs can give you a better healing timeline.

Hey bro, I have had a similar experience last months.
Short review of my condition. I was obsessed with bodybuilding when I was 17 years old. I thought I needed to proof something to people. So I trained and would do anything to become a bodybuilder, the biggest of the gym.

I am 32years old now , 6 years ago I stopped cycling roids and blast and cruised until November 2018.
4years ago I did get problems with my cardiovascular system. Thickening of the wall 17mm instead off 11mm. Third degree AV blocks, the worst!

They couldn't relate the blocks to roids or training. years after this diagnosis and alot of hospitals, I kept on training using roids. Never take rest or time off I did my last show last September. After this I again had a breakdown. I gained 20kg water, they thought heart failure...After they wanted to give me a pacemaker. I walked out of the hospital against medical advice. After that I changed 3 cardiologists and I decided to stop everything because off my current cardiologist. He told me, I can't proof all this is because or roids or anything but at least try it. I stopped using roids didn't train for 7 months. In those months I did a power pct and had help off internists to get on trt. In January I pastout at my sister daughter birthday, this was in my pct. I got a limitation for drive a car, could not work nothing!

But after 7 months and this is just 2 weeks ago I did get results.
The heart wall is 11mm again. Av blocks are almost none. They think I will be normal If i just take time off and stay on low trt for periods and train less hard for periods every couple months. It's not the roids but the combination. All my dedication off training and dieting helpt me though this time I had some sad backs of course but never give up life. I read alot of philosophy, I had alot of time to kill... this really helps put things in perspective.

I started my cycle for 8 weeks on the day I got these good news. I will never will repeat the same training or mindset , I will train hard but smart, and enjoy life.
I dont feel the urge to proof anything anymore. Been there don that. Will I be back in my competition shape....ofcourse! But never again on stage. I found my peace. In being healthy and bodybuilding as something I do instead of bodybuilding defining me.

Keep in mind , life is not bodybuilding. Its just something you do and are passionate about. Your health should be a part of bodybuilding. So even if you can't lift weights you still can set goals and work on your health. Also work on your mind, that needs a workout too once in a while. Maybe help other train smarter and learn from your mistakes, be a coach..

Sounds stupid, but I can't imagine a life without bodybuilding.

Life can be imagined endlessly , an open field of possibilities with successes and failures good days and bad. Life is pointing you in a new direction, and you simply want to say fuck it because you cant lift heavy, dude that's insanely narrow minded and short sighted. There are a million and 1 ways to train bro just use your head.

But I tell you this I have absolutely no respect for someone who takes there own life or worse threatens to take there own life out of a desperate need for attention. I had brothers in the military who took there own lives and know one knew they were going to do it until they had already done it, these people i'm talking about saw things most people could scarcely imagine. I think you should change that topic title.

You should never think of killing yourself bro. I know how it feels and to be honest sucks big time but i can assure you it will be over and things will get back on track.
Wish you a great recovery and health.
Cheers

Killing yourself is not the answer! I can relate to the mental problems caused by all this. However, you'll have to make sure you have a really good Doc that you have confidence in and take their advice.

If the doctor told you to rest, you'll have to give up. Lots of useful comments and advice but rest is the shortest way to recovery.
If you really want, you can train your joints with low weights and lots of repetitions. Just be content with this.
Recovery and your life are more important.
You'll see that you'll come back stronger than before.

I've had to take time off before but the body is amazing how it can get back very fast. Years of lifting and muscle memory will make things easier when its time. Good luck with the surgery. Hoping the kill yourself thing was sarcasm. Peace.

Haven’t got such an experience or knowledge but just want to wish you a good luck with the surgery. With your mindset you will be back to the level you are now in no time man and hopefully all the mechanical issues will be fixed by docs

You should have a chat with Exoticnfit or if you’re in the advanced group check out his post on ultra high volume training. In my chats with him we are talking about using 6lb Dumbbells for lateral raises for example. However the amount of reps, time under tension and total volume considering this type of training is done in tri and giant sets is insane. I’ve adopted much of this into my current routine and let me tell you it’s mega tough, super stimulating and growth is profound - you get a good cardio workout too. Most importantly although painful (from the pump) you are not going to be doing any damage to your muscles, joints, facia or organs. If you’ve seen a recent pic of Exoticnfit you will see this approach works if what you’re after is to build muscle as opposed to strength/power.

I’ll end by saying IrishMack’s post below contains some great advice which you should think about seriously even though I know you were being sarcastic with the title of your forum - you can see why folk may be taking it seriously.

I had a hundred things I could have said to you about this. I could have insulted you, philosophized you, patronized, e.t.c.

But you know I always try and be real. While you are on your 12 week break you need to experience shit you haven't before because you locked yourself in a bubble of constant weightlifting with no break for life.
I am pretty sure there are things you wanted to do but thought you never had time for because of your gym schedule.

I make time for other things in my life as much as possible. My car hobby. My road trips. my family. I never turn down something so I can go to the gym.

Its called priorities. If I were you see a therapist and talk about shit. Or if you have someone you can confide in talk to them. Something or someone needs to open your eyes.
I would be pissed if my doc told me I need to do something else but I would move on.

Than again im almost 50 so I know I cant do this forever. Its facing reality.

After my gallbladder and hernia surgery I had to lift lighter for awhile. I started doing things like pec deck before bench , pausing in the stretched position of each movement, slowing down my reps and increasing time under tension.
Much to my surprise I got sore af and I think I've made some gains.Theres plenty of guys that lift with light and moderate weight that are pretty damn big.
Makwa is one of them. Get some advice from him.
Goodluck

Absolutely not. There are other sports out there that may not take such a toll on the body as bodybuilding does, and that’s if you don’t get medical clearance to train for that again, which we can keep our fingers crossed in the meantime and just hope the procedure goes well. You’re obviously a naturally competitive, driven person, so if you need to evolve to move on to another chapter to keep feeding that fire, albeit with a different fuel source and perhaps to a different heat level than before, it’s far better than just cashing in all your chips instead of even trying to find another endeavor to pour your passion into

Good luck, sir

Just think. You cant see a life without bodybuilding
But your family cant see a life without you..
Give me a healthy diet and 20lb dumbells
Goodluck man, whatever you do DONT GIVE UP on life or a healthy lifestyle. That go big or go home doesnt exist to me after i turned 40.

Really sorry to hear all this man, I feel for you I really do :( I can't offer any advice on the surgery but if it makes it easier to deal with mentally just think about these guy's who compete for a living and tear quads off the bone or have heart issues and either can't train for 6 months or even ever again. Just take things one day at a time, look at how many times doctors are wrong about training again and they are always over cautious about everything.