posted Sat, 04/27/2019 - 14:39
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Syringes and Needles
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Can someone please help on what type of needles and syringes I should use. This will be my first cycle and I am going to be using test C. I have been reading that I need to draw with an 18g and pin with a 23 or 25 depending where I am pinning. I also need help finding a site to order from, I understand that we cant name sites on here so please pm me where I need to go.
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25 gauge 1.5 inch B-D brand for glutes (1" for other body parts)
r4zor_reloadedDepending on your budget.. and how much fat you hold and considering this is your first cycle, If you had no other choice, you could get away with a 25 gauge 1.5 inch 3 cc needle. But you should not use the same needle to inject that you are drawing with because the moment you go yhtough the stopper, youre dulling the tip. A quick youtube video will show u how easy it is to twist off the needle from the syringe with the cap on and swap out a fresh needle after having drew your gear from the vial.
But as many others stated you could do a 23 gauge or even a 22 gauge to draw with. Be careful not to go with a bigger gauge than 22 as they will tend to puncture the stopper too much..possibly causing leakage. Drawing air into the syringe and pushing it into the vial will create pressure making it easier to draw .. especially if u decidw that youre only going to be using 25 gauge both for drawing and injecting. Usually for drawing needles people go for 1.5 inch by default.
As far as needle length: 1.5 is good for glutes and sometimes quads but reallt depends on how lean you are. You can use also use a 1 inch needle for quads but ideal for delts/tris
If you can only get 23g needles... just know they are slighty bigger in diameter so they hurt a bit more when injecting.. though thats what i started my first cycle with. Fun times.
PcushionGotta find a source that uses silicone stoppers j stead of rubber. With rubber stoppers your inevitable shooting micro pieces of rubber.
Alphamale500I just wanna add one thing to where you wrote:
"Depending on your budget.. "
If the cost of needles is a deciding point in making decisions about your cycle, I really don't think you should be running gear! Just my opinion.
jayiskguess he went back to the supp boards...
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RivaDraw with 23, pin with 25 1 inchers, i can pin quads with a slin pin caus I am leaner there. I used to inject with 23's, I don't even know why. I think thats what my dealer gave me, I prefer 25g, 23 is too big imo.
I draw with 23's and shoot with 25 or smaller. Depends on the thickness of the oil really but can't go wrong shooting with a 25. I don't like drawing with anything larger than a 23, risk creating a big, leaky hole in the stopper and floaties in the oil. That's just me, everyone has their own preference.
Alphamale500That is a very good observation about drawing with a large pin! Most people don't even think of that happening when choosing what size pin to draw with. Depending on the thickness of the oil, I personally prefer to draw and inject with a 23 gauge 1.5" pin. I like the 1.5" length to draw instead of 1" like some others recommend because when the vial gets low, it's easy to get the pin to the bottom of the vial.
+1 bro! Very good observation.
Tip the vial updside down.
Actually, this poster he's replying to didn't say anything about length... but I did below.
You're trolling Makwa, you should know it's easier to draw from the bottom than it is trying to keep just the point of the needle in the vile so you can get that last 1/4 mil. Plus, some of these stoppers have thinner "pockets" where the oil can pool.
Of course, if you guys who remarked on this comment couldn't figure that out you probably couldn't get out of a monkey trap either.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^facepalm....haha!
Oh snap, that's allowed?
I started to tell him, but decided he'd probably figure it out at some point. Kinda amusing picturing someone drawing like that and trying to get that last quarter ml out of the vial, lol.
Absolutely. I would draw with a 25 if it didn't take all day, lol. Amazing how quicker it is just going from 25 to 23 drawing....
I needed this info, thank you.
Rustyhooker+2 ..... everyones in a rush but forgets that leaky stopper and microbes. Or inject a piece....
Yes sir, learned the hard way, have trashed half full vials of good gear over that. And honestly if you warm the vial in a heating pad drawing with a 23 takes like 5 seconds. Too many times I've been drawing and felt warm oil running down my hand and wrist.
Alphamale500Imo, since this will be your first cycle and therefore first injections, I think you should stick with proper medical injection procedures. I think you best bet is to inject into your glutes, deep itra-muscular with a 1.5" pin. The gauge of pin I like to use is between 23 and 25, depending on thickness of the oil your injecting. And be sure to do your research on the correct spots on your glutes to inject in. Be safe bro!
Draw pin is always 21g x 1".
Stick pins vary depending on injection site:
25g x 1"
25g x 1.5"
27g x 5/8"
I always typically use 3cc syringe lure lock style.
29g x 1/2" slins x 1cc
Wanted to add. It also depends on how lean you are.
Alphamale500Don't you find it better to use a 1.5" pin to draw so you can get to the bottom of the vial easily?
Typically flip vial
Thanks guys all this info is a much appreciated!
1ml syringes + 20g draw needle + 25g inject needle = gold bro.
google needles and syringes , you will find what you need.
I draw with an 18g 1 1/2 and pin with a 24g 1 1/2 and go about 3/4 deep in the glutes. Upper outer always bro. Also get the Leur lock needles and syringes to facilitate ease of use with switching between draw and pinning needles.
Alphamale500Just my opinion, but I don't see any reason to draw with such a thick pin as an 18 gauge. Just like herpjunkie111 said above, you could possibly create a big hole in your stopper and actually cause some particles of the stopper to be dropped into the oil, leakage etc..
And in glutes, I think it's really important to inject a deep intra-muscular injection at 1.5". That is actually the proper medical technique when injecting an oily mixture, even though many people choose not to follow this technique. But especially for someone taking their first injections, I think they should get used to doing it properly first.
You know to be honest I never really thought about leaving a hole in the stopper, it’s a super valid point tho and one I will be taking into account when I order pins again. And yes, I agree I started pinning glutes way back when and it is super important to get that sucker nice and deep. I personally go about 3/4 maybe a little more just not all the way down to the base.
RustyhookerDropdowns up top....ancillaries section. Youll find it all there.
25 1" all day
Is still like 5/8 for pecs and traps
I draw wit ha 23 and pin wit ha 25 1". Simple and effective!
Same
Buy a box of 100 syringes with a 2"-- 20g needle attached and an equal quantity of needles you want to pin with, (1" to 1.5" / 23g to 25g)
No point in buying syringes alone and 2 sets of needles.
22g to draw, less damage to the stopper. Longer length to allow you to reach the bottom of the vial.
BD is the best brand.
Just google Syringes and needles. there are dozens of online pharmacies that sell them
That's what I did by mistake..lesson learned. Probably spent more money than I needed to, but I'm gold for a couple cycles now.
Pretty easy bro you should know this before ever thinking about taking aas but Amazon there cheap and easy to get I draw with a 23 and switch it out to another 23 to inject I think 18g would put a bigger hole easier to contaminate your gear but I'm a germaphob so whatever I'll take the extra 30 seconds to draw my gear out to be safer
Idk where you’re at but when I try to order them from amazon it says I need a business account and medical license to purchase them. I mean I have a great source I found here to get them from so I’m covered but I have tried amazon also and it won’t let me.
Amazon tried that here in the states for a while but the lifted the ban on it so now it's back to normal I can get whatever pin and syringe i want. I have another site to get them from if you want to I'm me
Dude just go online and they have places all over that will send you syringes. I use a18 gage to draw and 23 gage to inject. One inch long for quads and inch and a half for glute. If you inject into quad I would use a 25 gage.