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-1 The Best Way To Kill Any Bacteria In Vials

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What's up fellas? I was just thinking, wouldn't it be a good idea before using vials of gear, to break the seal off, stick like an 18" pin in the stopper, and put it in the oven for a little while to kill off any bacteria? Even if you're getting your gear from a reputable, top notch source, if they're still an Underground Lab, depending on the the lab in question, then there's still a decent chance of bacteria growing inside the vials, even during transporting the gear. Not to mention that lots of these UGL's, I'm sure cut corners and leave out some ingredients, and whatever else they can to save on production expenses! Unless you get your gear from a legitimate pharmacy selling legitimate gear, or gear that you're getting in ampules, then you might not have to worry. These vials aren't sealed air-tight containers, so they are capable of being contaminated by who knows what kinds of bacteria, no? Then again, just because your gear comes in an ampule instead of a vial, that doesn't even mean your totally safe. Of course, there are some UGL's that have perfectly sterile laboratory's, and produce their gear under strict guidelines, but I really think that they are rare. There's definitely some listed on here, Eroids, that I honestly believe follow strict guidelines while making their gear, and use all proper ingredients, but there's also many other fugazzi sites on the internet, that just want to make money, and couldn't give a fuck about bacteria in your gear!! I used to think that the Benzyl Alcohol would prevent any bacteria from contaminating your gear, but from numerous articles and papers I've read, that's not the case. Some UGL's may even skip this step so they can save money in production. However, I was wondering if the heat from the oven would harm certain types of gear, or maybe melt the stopper. I was thinking if you were to put the vials in a tray in the oven, with preferably an 18" pin in the stopper to relieve any pressure that may build up, put the oven on just like 175°, and let them sit in there for about 15-20 minutes, would that be enough to kill any bacteria without harming the gear? Or maybe some type of water bath with the vials in a pot with water in it, coming up to just below the tops of the vials, and boiling or simmering it for like 15 to 20 minutes. Or maybe, you can just pop the vials in the microwave. I know it may seem like a lot of extra work, but you never know, you could be saving yourself from some flesh eating disease, and it's better to be safe than sorry, or just to put your mind at ease, especially if you one of those kinds of people that worry a lot about this kind of shit. For those who know, what would be the best method for disinfecting your gear? I'm thinking that the water bath would be the best way, because if you've ever had a test cypionate vial crash on you, and then you put it in a very hot water bath a few times, to get the test cypionate to dissolve back into the mix, this would be a very similar situation. So, if someone with the know-how would like to way in, and suggest an easy and reliable method to disinfecting your vials of gear, it would be greatly appreciated! I'm thinking that the water bath would be the best way to go here, but I'm no expert, and I don't have any experience when it comes to disinfecting gear, except for a couple times when I had to re-dissolve a couple vials of test cypionate that had crashed, is the closest I've came. Also, is there an additional ingredient that can be added to gear, to totally disinfect it?? Alright, thanks a lot guys!

roly420's picture

I usually just remove cap, and put in a pan. Fry some bacon and return to vial. It doesn't sterilize it, but the infection let's out a smokey aroma. Real nice actually. And the bacon goes good with my famous huevos rancheros.

But to avoid infection;
*buy from trusted lab.
*clean and proper injection procedure.
*if cant follow those first steps, stick to herbal test boosters.

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Yuu's picture

The vial, even if UGL, is sterile. Your oven is not sterile. Open your vial, put in your oven, voila, your vial is not sterile anymore

Davidalbert969's picture

Ur gear has ba an bb in it an the vials should of been sterilized before the gear went into them. So u shouldn't have to worry about doing it yourself.
Ur supplier should do it in the first place. If u don't trust them then that's bad.

The Impastable's picture

I believe most humans come equipped with an immune system nowadays as a standard package, at no additional costs

The Impastable's picture

It was all in jest man. I risk popping an arterie putting my socks on in the morning and taking a strenuous shit.

The only certainty in life is death, worrying too much about bacteria is certain to get you there sooner!

Greg's picture

Holy shit!

3 whole paragraphs!

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The Impastable's picture

LMAO

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Greg's picture

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Greg's picture

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giardap's picture

Uvc lamps.... 10- 15$
Simples

giardap's picture

yeah man, cheap as chips and very effective

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onyxvex's picture

you wont need to put pin in the stopper.although i suggest you dont put your gear inthe oven most of it comes sterile

KMC's picture

you wont need to put pin in the stopper.although i suggest you dont put your gear inthe oven most of it comes sterile

What?? ..... ????....

More bad advice from a wannabe source.

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Dets's picture

If you are actually concerned with bacteria and will no accept any logicial assurances as answers here is how I would do it:

Spot check. Like they would in a lab. Buy 20 vials of test from the same batch.

Send 5 out for testing to someone who actually knows what they are doing and not using a microwave. They will GS/MS the samples and check for uniformity in all 5 vials. If the test comes back good, you are good to go.

The reason I say by 20 is because doing this everytime you cycle is so cost prohibitive that it would make sense to just buy in bulk if the batch is good.

But the key part of my post is to send it to someone with expertise, not your Phillips microwave. Someone with an actual PHD

Or you can just not be dumb, do what Greg says and buy from a normal, verified source who has their shit together. After all, its not a really complicated process. It just has to be done correctly.

I think its probably more complicated to do close loop BHO extraction at this point lmao.

Greg's picture

I guess we are all less paranoid than smart.

If you are paranoid and "smart" use a whatman syringe filter at best; or at least use a UV pen.

You would have to boil your gear to kill bacteria. Microwaves don't kill bacteria, heat does. You'd need a pressure cooker to place your vials into and who knows how the stoppers would react to the process

You can try venting the stoppers and double boiling (or bake to boiling) but you'll probably burn off a lot of the liquid in the carrier oil and preservatives potentially crashing your gear.

Or, if you were average smart, You'd follow best practices when pinning and find a reputable source selling reputable gear to mitigate the odds of getting tainted vials.

Personally I stay away from gear inspired by comic book heroes with "cool" branding and graphics and stick to "professional" "pharma" gear also used by doctors in third word countries. Or very well established UGL labs that have been around for decades.

KMC's picture

throw your vials in the microwave for 45 seconds

This could get to be fun........

Metal (seal rings, venting pins) tend to create a light show (sparks) in a operating microwave.

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fusebox's picture

Kinda like a bug zapper. Don't look at the light. Oh pretty lights. Zapp

KMC's picture

10 years ago,........ this may have been a valid question. But recently a game changing events happen. A steroid review site opened up, on this site the paid up members would give their reviews on different labs and SOURCE'S. Now if you bought a membership, you could read those reviews. Now as you can imagine, it would only take one or 2 members saying words like "infection" or "abscess" and sales from a dirt lab would die.

PM me if you want membership info or contact information to that site, I won't tell you the web addy, but the place is called EROIDS, the cost of membership is worth it.

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scootloko's picture

I put vials in the oven with a pin sticking through to vent, I forget which gauge but I made sure they weren't actually in the oil. They were on 160 degrees I believe but my memory is foggy on that. Anyway when I came back to check on them they were in a puddle. Instead of just air venting actual oil vented and I know I didn't have the pins in the oil. Just watman filter them if you want to be cautious.

Eagles 2013's picture

Gotta be careful when you do that. The heat causes the oil to expand and therefore rise higher in the vial than it was at room temperature. You want the tip of the pin to be in just deep enough to fully penetrate the rubber stopper. If the tip of the pin is close to the top of the oil, the oil is going to expand right up and out of the pin.

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wanted's picture

I heard of people putting drano in there bottle. But i prefre to trust my source. And hope for the best

vhman's picture

I’m sure a nice shot of Lysol in each vile would do the trick.

Sam I Am's picture

Line em is on your fence and do some target practice. That ought to do it..

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chunkypbnj's picture

Trash that shit! Not worth the risk!

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Muffins's picture

You will need to filter it to remove bacteria. On top of that, you’re not going to have a very controlled environment so you may introduce bacteria anyways. What you should be concerned about is the heavy metals and other trace compounds being present, which filtering does not catch.

shawn0712's picture

I really don’t think a filter will even do much for bacteria. I’m sure they’re great for larger particulates, but if the heavy metals pass through, individual cells of bacteria will make it as well.
The heavy metals thing should definitely be a concern for all of us. I plan to have mine checked again. I know what my values were several years ago. Once they’re absorbed, they can be stored in bone tissue for up to 30 years, so you really don’t truly know what they are, and they can release all of a sudden and cause some serious issues.
An iron rich diet is definitely important. Run deficient at all, and our bodies grab onto the first metal available.
I don’t have a major love for liver, but I still eat it a few times a month for that reason. Hops also help, so I can justify the beers as well.