+ 1 Instead Of TRT, Try HCG Monotherapy!
How ya doin guys. Right now I'm running some gear, but before that I suffered from hypogonadism, or low-T, which of course I will still have when I stop the gear. I've tried everything at one point or another, TRT, Clomiphene therapy, but the thing that worked the best was HCG by itself (monotherapy). I was only taking 250iu sub-q, M-W-F. I felt like a young kid again, as far as sex drive, morning and nighttime erections, which believe me you wish you had them when they no longer happen! Everone with severe ED knows what I'm talking about. I was getting erections all the time. If you get it from a pharmacy in the U.S., it's really expensive, so I just got it from the internet instead. Use a pregnancy test to make sure it's real just in case, but there is plenty of legitimate HCG out there. The best kind to get is the brands that come straight from an Indian pharmacy, with the batch, exp., and price in rubles(or whatever) stamped on the side. It brought my test up to mid 700's. It can cause some men's E2 to go up, so you definitely need to get your labs done on a regular basis. With the dose I was taking, or maybe it was just me, my E2 never went up enough to require an AI or anything. It actually worked better for me than the test did, no joke. Just thought I'd put that out there for you guys with low-T. After my cycles, I'm going right back on that. I still take it now with my gear to keep my balls from shrinking, and to stay fertile, but at 500iu and for only the first week of each month. Take care guys!
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I was on HCG for a year under endo supervision. Every other day at 500iu had my levels steady at 900-935 ng/dl.
The only issue with hcg is that if your body is not able to produce naturally once you taper off. it's just a risky TRT. Cancer is a real risk while on hcg. Most doctor use it as a test to see if they are able to reset your system.
And yet a 1 week member,
I don't think he is showing his whole retail stockpile,.............. just sayin.
Anyone notice this guy has posted 5 gear pics in like a week? Karma whore much NEW BASIC?
5 in a week damn..
Doesn't seem to be working too well for him with only 3 points. The read is interesting though.
I've tried thist stuff cos off side effects of TRT - http://naturaltestosteronepills.com/increase-testosterone-naturally/.
I've run gear in the past. Early 30's. Got big and strong. Didn't do any thing right . Got bad sides then hurt my self. Strung out on pain meds. Got super fat . Got sick of that cleaned up and started to diet and workout again. Little over 2 years ago. Have used natty test boosters since. They help. Got things to work the way they supposed to. Felt great. Had a friend ask if I aver run any gear. And turned me on to a source. Grabbed up a few different things. Test ,deca , eq.he couldn't answer all my questions so I got on this forum and started to learn. Turned out I was about to make a huge mistake. Didnt know about esto control or realy proper pct. Was stuck at 173 for a while and thought I needed the gear to change . After reading and researching through all these posts. I changed my mind about the gear. Still have it. Will run it but not for now. Have changed my diet and work routine now up to 190. Trying to get to 200. It's slowing down though. Time to change it up a little to see how far I can go natural.
Well it's like they say you can't squeeze blood from a turnip so if the testes don't produce test they don't produce test and that's why hcg monotherapy is not common..
Plus the estrogen sides from hcg (not bad in my experience) are not effectively treated with an AI
In other words an ai won't do anything like implied above
Theres to types of hypogondism, one where the hypothalamus doesn't produce GnRH or the pituitary doesn't produce LH anymore, that's primary, in this case if the testes are still ok his method will work fine, desensitization may occur over time if the dose is to high though. If the GnRH and LH are still being produced at normal levels but his leydeg cells in his testes aren't responding to the LH signal anymore ( secondary) then all the hcg in the world won't help.
Clomid and hcg are very common first steps before trt.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't primary usually an issue with the pituitary and not related to cycling... when I say you can't squeeze blood from a turnip I'm referring to secondary
I know clomid is often a first step before trt but as far as I know trt is still the standard treatment for both primary and secondary hypogonadism thanks for clarification if it is more common I was unaware I know it's often used in conjunction with test but I was under the impression that it was not often prescribed in place of
Ya primary usually means that levels of LH are low either due to the hypothalamus not producing gondatropin releasejnf hormone which would travel to the pituitary and tell it to release LH, or its possible GnRH is being produced bud there's a problem with the pituitary and it's not responding to the GnRH signal. Could occur just cause thats the hand one was dealt or it could be from cycling. Many people on trt that never used gear and many not who abused the shit out of if, luck or genetics idk. And ya If ones Leydeg cells in their balls are fucked no amount of hcg or Natural LH will get them producing test. All docs are different some love one drug some love another but many have success with using hcg to get test levels back in range assuming this is primary hypogonadism. If it's secondary then hcg will do fuck all.
Thanks for brushing me up on that this what makes eroids great