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-1 The Best Way To Kill Any Bacteria In Vials

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What's up fellas? I was just thinking, wouldn't it be a good idea before using vials of gear, to break the seal off, stick like an 18" pin in the stopper, and put it in the oven for a little while to kill off any bacteria? Even if you're getting your gear from a reputable, top notch source, if they're still an Underground Lab, depending on the the lab in question, then there's still a decent chance of bacteria growing inside the vials, even during transporting the gear. Not to mention that lots of these UGL's, I'm sure cut corners and leave out some ingredients, and whatever else they can to save on production expenses! Unless you get your gear from a legitimate pharmacy selling legitimate gear, or gear that you're getting in ampules, then you might not have to worry. These vials aren't sealed air-tight containers, so they are capable of being contaminated by who knows what kinds of bacteria, no? Then again, just because your gear comes in an ampule instead of a vial, that doesn't even mean your totally safe. Of course, there are some UGL's that have perfectly sterile laboratory's, and produce their gear under strict guidelines, but I really think that they are rare. There's definitely some listed on here, Eroids, that I honestly believe follow strict guidelines while making their gear, and use all proper ingredients, but there's also many other fugazzi sites on the internet, that just want to make money, and couldn't give a fuck about bacteria in your gear!! I used to think that the Benzyl Alcohol would prevent any bacteria from contaminating your gear, but from numerous articles and papers I've read, that's not the case. Some UGL's may even skip this step so they can save money in production. However, I was wondering if the heat from the oven would harm certain types of gear, or maybe melt the stopper. I was thinking if you were to put the vials in a tray in the oven, with preferably an 18" pin in the stopper to relieve any pressure that may build up, put the oven on just like 175°, and let them sit in there for about 15-20 minutes, would that be enough to kill any bacteria without harming the gear? Or maybe some type of water bath with the vials in a pot with water in it, coming up to just below the tops of the vials, and boiling or simmering it for like 15 to 20 minutes. Or maybe, you can just pop the vials in the microwave. I know it may seem like a lot of extra work, but you never know, you could be saving yourself from some flesh eating disease, and it's better to be safe than sorry, or just to put your mind at ease, especially if you one of those kinds of people that worry a lot about this kind of shit. For those who know, what would be the best method for disinfecting your gear? I'm thinking that the water bath would be the best way, because if you've ever had a test cypionate vial crash on you, and then you put it in a very hot water bath a few times, to get the test cypionate to dissolve back into the mix, this would be a very similar situation. So, if someone with the know-how would like to way in, and suggest an easy and reliable method to disinfecting your vials of gear, it would be greatly appreciated! I'm thinking that the water bath would be the best way to go here, but I'm no expert, and I don't have any experience when it comes to disinfecting gear, except for a couple times when I had to re-dissolve a couple vials of test cypionate that had crashed, is the closest I've came. Also, is there an additional ingredient that can be added to gear, to totally disinfect it?? Alright, thanks a lot guys!

Muffins's picture

Yes, heavy metals are a scary risk we take. Supposedly the micron filters we use will get the bacteria. However, if there was existing bacteria, the exotoxins they create will still pass through it. I watched a video presentation on this way back by a doctor. I found an article or two on it. Too lazy to reference sources. Promise they will be an easy find if you’re interested.

shawn0712's picture

I was just getting ready to post “ edit- I’ll correct myself before you do”. Lol.

I didn’t realize they were that efficient. .22 microns is pretty damn tiny.

Becausesquat's picture

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Ozninjaguy's picture

I'm pretty sure that he took a deep breath and then started typing.

shawn0712's picture

When you draw out, the first thing you typically do is inject an equal amount of air into the vial. It’s inevitable that there is going to be some contact with the air. Even if you don’t, Air is still going to enter that vial through the hole you just punctured in the top to stabilize pressure.
Stick with reputable sources and you should be fine. You won’t hurt anything heating it to 175, but honestly, if BA doesn’t kill it, 175 probably won’t have much impact either.
That’s part of the beauty of the review system here. If a source were putting out dirty shit, and people were getting infections, word would travel pretty fast.
I can’t say I’ve ever heard of anyone microwaving it, and I’m not about to try it.

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fusebox's picture

You're not supposed to put metal in the microwave.

Ozninjaguy's picture

Mate - actually, some metals are safe in microwaves - I doubt whether the aluminum top of a vial would be a problem, but best to check with the microwave manufacturers advice.

IrishWOLFhound's picture

Infection or abscess are usually caused by user error while injecting . I'm not going to start microwaving every vial I have , I never had a problem and I've used 100's of vials . if I was that paranoid about vials being contaminated I wouldn't bother buying any gear at all .

Ozninjaguy's picture

^^ agreed ^^

Makwa's picture

Your OCD is kicking in here. If it looks contaminated or has foreign particles in it then obviously trash it, otherwise I wouldn't monkey around with it.

Keepmovingforward's picture

You’ll probably do more damage than good honestly. I wouldn’t fuck with it unless it’s crystallized/crashed and even then I’d debate using it. If there were contaminated gear from a reputable source on eroids Everyone would know real fast. So I guess that’s where being a part of a good community and getting good products comes into play. But if you wanna start boiling perfectly good gear go for it haha.

Makwa's picture

I don't believe I'm being over-cautious

yes you are

Ozninjaguy's picture

I think he thought that OCD meant Over Cautious Disorder...I agree with your clinical evaluation.

Eagles 2013's picture

Yeah, I mean you could do it just like you were fixing crashed gear, but I honestly think that if anything it would just lead to a false sense of security. I only say that because (at least in my opinion) the greatest risk of bacterial contamination comes after the gear leaves the vial... Dirty needle, contaminants on the skin, etc. In those cases it doesn't matter how clean the oil is.

Still a nice idea and way to add an extra layer of security.

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Eagles 2013's picture

I get you. I used to be a lot more concerned with these things. After using them for years upon years without issue and I am perhaps overly trusting.

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