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Npp tesp p injection frequency

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Ok so i have 100mg per ml test p and npp. I started out doing 1ml of each every other day. The pip was killing me so i switched to .5ml of each daily and it helped alot with the pip. Is there any reason it would feel not as strong doing it .5 ml daily instead of 1ml eod?

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Some back story. I didnt just wake up and decide to use aas. I have been really skinny my whole life. At 19 i was 6 foot 135 pounds and stayed that way no matter what i ate. I have been working out since high school off and on. When i hit 30 my meatbolism must have slowed a little. I worked out 3 or 4 days a week and worked my way up to 150 pounds and thats where i stayed for 2 years. I went to the doc feeling tired and foggy. He had bloods done and my total test was 167. I started trt after about 8 weeks i felt great. After 8 months of hitting the gym eating alot like i have my whole life i still wasnt getting great gains but i could tell the trt was helping i looked fuller and more defined but damn after years and years i wanted more. I did a ton of research. I weighed the pros and cons and made my decision. I know i still have alot to learn but thats why i come to places like this to learn from people with expirence and first hand knowledge. I may have things to learn no doubt but i didnt just jump in head first without checking how deep the water was.

Keepmovingforward's picture

I have probably a similar body type as you man.
as soon as I hit 25 I ran a test e cycle and went from 165 to 195 and kept most of it after pct. even though all the vets on here told me I needed to eat more before I started I still ran a cycle and what I learned on that cycle is I definitely wasn’t eating enough before. I know sometimes it can feel like you’re being put down But people just wanna help. Try throwing a few shakes a day in-between meals but make them thick with oats, bananas, spinach, Greek yogurt, peanut butter and some protein powder. The possibilities are endless really. Good luck man.

Rickd1983's picture

Yes im learning the ropes. Thanks for the suggestions info and patience.

stairmaster's picture

Age: 34
Height: 6
Weight: 185
BF:

regarding this stats I recommand you to use more meals ED instead of gear!

Rickd1983's picture

Yes i know. U look at those stats and say eat more. What those stats dont tell u is i was 150 pounds 2 years ago which was the heaviest i had been in my life. So please dont just assume i just take gear fo fun and make no gains.

Rickd1983's picture

600mg test a week and 350 npp. I thought i went over that already. My fault.

Bearded_muscle's picture

Your question indicates you’ve got more to learn. Much better to figure out all this stuff before you start pumping drugs into your body, brother.

press1's picture

If you use one of the steroid calculators people submit on here you'll see injecting ED actually builds up the hormone to a higher level overall so therefore more anabolism & synthesis but you'll be more use to the 'feel' of the hormone as it will be more stable - where as EOD it will peak and then dip the following day therefore it will feel stronger in effect when it peaks again when you inject. For whats its worth when I switched to injected ED still with the same volumes overall for the week I got better results.

IrishMack's picture

Dude, he was asking why it hurts when he pins it all at once, and it doesnt hurt as much when he pins less. Reading comprehension my friend.

press1's picture

What does he mean by 'Is there any reason it would feel not as strong doing it .5 ml daily instead of 1ml eod?' then?

IrishMack's picture

The pip was killing me so i switched to .5ml of each daily and it helped alot with the pip. Is there any reason it would feel not as strong doing it .5 ml daily instead of 1ml eod?

Did you not read the first thing he said which was the pip was killing him so he switched to .5 ed. Why is it not that strong anymore?

Then based on what you wrote you claim if you inject ed it builds up higher. No it doesnt. It keeps your levels consistent if its an acetate or propianate, it will not be higher. If you inject an enathate then yes it will get higher based on its halflife.

IrishMack's picture

If you had a beer that was 50% alcohol by volume, and you had 5 beers that were 20% alcohol by volume and lets say they were all 12 ounce. Which beer would get you drunk faster, the one beer with more alcohol or one of the 5 beers with less alcohol?

Rickd1983's picture

Can i buy a vowel? I guess my question would be How fast did u drink the 5 beers at 20%alcohol?

GYM SUPPS's picture

Hello@ IrishMack,

I would have whiskey and coke please lol

wanted's picture

Please dont give this guy a math test lol. Cant wait to hear his answer tho

kibby's picture

I see no one has answered yet

LMFAO

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IrishMack's picture

Which leads me to believe there is a serious lack of common sense lol
It was aimed at the OP for that reason.

kibby's picture

Scary shit mate.....I see this everyday with some of the guys I work with.
They should be dead 100 times over just pure dumb luck they are still alive

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IrishMack's picture

You would not believe the shit I see at work either, people making a shit ton of money but if you took away their fork at lunch they would starve from not being able to figure out how to use their hands.

House's picture

Im sweating. I feel like im back at school. Haha.

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steroidmen's picture

lol

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RangerVet's picture

Let me get my wife....my answer is drink beer lol

Sam I Am's picture

Lol that’s a good frat boy analogy...

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RangerVet's picture

Taking 50 percent less oil makes a big difference...try the difference in pain with 500mg per ml test...one half is tolerable...one 1cc will fuck your life up for days...

Rickd1983's picture

I did a ton of research after my first injection and tried everything that i though would work.someone said the oil breaks down in the muscle faster than the steroid and somwthing about crystals left in the muscle and thats where the pain can come from. I warm inject slow as possible amd so far the only thing that worked was doing .5ml of each in the same needle instead of 1ml. Now though i just dont feel as on as i did before. Maybe its in my head idk

Sam I Am's picture

There’s almost always more pip with fast esters. Throw up a pic bro. Rusty made a great point. You have a opportunity to prove him wrong with a picture. He’s usually right...

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Rickd1983's picture

Like i said im new to this forum stuff. I just started using it to get advice from people who actually know instead of google.

Rickd1983's picture

Lol no problem. Im on my phone and cant seem to figure out how to post pics.

Rickd1983's picture

Im new to this so bare with me. My bf i dont know. Im lean not much fat anywhere. Ive been on trt for 1.5 years. I am acually up 30 pounds in the last two years. I use to be real short and grew like 6 inches in a year at age 18 and was very skinny ever since.calories maybe 3000 if im lucky. I work 12 hour shifts and sometimes dont eat right. I know meal prep.i started with running test c at 500mg for 12 weeks went back to my trt dose of 200mg a week for a month then ran 600 mg of test c with 60mg of t bol for 8 weeks took 2 months off except just trt dose. Now running test p at 350 a week with my trt dose and 350 a week npp. .25 adex eod and caber on hand.

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I am gonna try to go next week. I went about a month and a half ago. Everything was in normal range. My total test was high at 1500 with just my trt dose and my rbc count was slightly elevated. I donate blood every 2 months.

Sam I Am's picture

Boom Rusty was right...

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Sam I Am's picture

I agree I should have looked at his stats however the weight may not be bad depending on his structure and bodyfat percentage. Could be a boxer or wrestler...Bulk daddy and George do those physique shows and there not heavy guys. A picture would be a good indicator.

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Rickd1983's picture

What do u mean answering for a cosigner?

House's picture

Someone who dont care bout you or the decisions your bout to make. Small decisions can make big problems in the future kid.

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Sam I Am's picture

He should post a picture. Your probably right. Im attempting to be positive for 24 hours. A little bet with the wife...she says I’m an asshole. Lol she’s usually right to.

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IrishMack's picture

In the time I put up my post there was noone responded, once I posted All these replies came through.

Sam I Am's picture

We’re following your lead Mac.

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Cummin apart's picture

There are 100 different reasons for pip,
But it may be your injecting too fast?
Try to warm the oil and inject super slow,
I do that with 2.5 ML of oil and almost no pip what so ever, also different carrier oils react differently to certain people

Sam I Am's picture

Your introducing less into your system at once. However your blood levels will be more stable.

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