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Pip relief

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This is my first time using mtc oil based test p and npp. Both are giving me horrible pip about 18 hours after injection. I tried adding grapeseed oil. I tried warming the oil. Nothing has worked at all. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Rickd1983's picture

Well fellas i found out yesterday that short esters just dont agree with me. I added 250 mg of test c a week to my cycle. I injected 1ml into my delt yesterday morning and have no pip no pain at all. Its from the same source and from the same batch.

Eagles 2013's picture

Long shot here, but have you checked the sources SI page or talked to other kown customers who made a purchase around the same time that you got your gear. I am a long term AAS user and TRT patient and I very rarely get PIP. However, a few years ago I got a batch of done gear that was hurting me worse than my first few injections years ago. I checked SI page, saw that multiple users were reporting the same issue and it turned out that the source mixed up the BA/BB ratio on an entire batch.

Rare, but it happens. May be worth checking in to do if nothing else you can eliminate it from the list of possibilities.

Edit: Of all the compounds that I have used over the years, test p has always been the worst PIP culprit. How experienced are you with test p in general? I know you said it is your first time using it in mct oil, but what about with other carriers?

Keepmovingforward's picture

Nothing worse than walking around the gym like a pirate haha grapeseed oil has always done the trick for me. There are a ton of forums already written on PIP around. Hopefully you find something that helps.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/causes-and-so...

Rickd1983's picture

I have never had any pip from EO oil. Do you think i could purchase some from the spurce i get oils from to cut it with and ease the pip. First time using mct oil. Its q good sorce with lots of reviews about no pip. I must just react bad to mct oil.

fusebox's picture

Sometimes it's a reaction to the oil man. I can't use eo that is over 50% or mct and safflower oil. I have terrible reactions to safflower so it's just figuring out what works for you and do your research when buying so you don't end up with a shit load that you can't use. Like me

GrowMore's picture

^^ this

It's all relative baby.

november1's picture

Dude i feel your pain, i got some terrible experience with test e 500, was stupid and diddnt research enought, and pushed pure pain from hell in my glutes. Worst pain i have experienced by far.
Like little shards of broken glass was put in my ass ( no homo), all area was swolen and sometimes numb, sometimes super painfull. the numbness started to scare me!
it lasted for 10 days!
shiit!

I tried paracetamol, ibuprofen and over the counter painkillers. inuprofen took away the pain a little bit in higher doses, but diddnt healed me!
Time did.

Newer put raw oils in you! Thats what i learned!

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Jayzgainz's picture

The single biggest thing I have done to eliminate pip was to go in deep (no homo) and push the oil in as slow as possible with the highest gauge possible. And I never rub the area afterwards.

Does your product contain EO, BB, or BA? Maybe something just isnt agreeing with you.

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Rickd1983's picture

I just checked. Mine contains BA BB and MCT oil. Ive never had any pip at all with EO. Could i cut it with some EO? Do you think that would help?

Cummin apart's picture

Yes sir, slow is the goal!
Some times it’s hard to hold still while injecting that long but definitely helps with the PIP

Jayzgainz's picture

Yup! Ive gotten shakey a few times when doing a glute and it was taking forever. Just backed off, rested a second then back at it. No pip.

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fusebox's picture

I just pinned my delt and hand started trembling. Not sure whatvwas going on. Just pushed through. I'm sure it'll be sore tomorrow

Eagles 2013's picture

The worst I have ever done was last year when I was pinning a glute and mid injection something set my dog off and he went fucking ballistic (110 lb lab and when he barks he BARKS). It scared me so bad that I jumped hard enough to bend a 23 g needle in my glute. I was more scared after at the prospect of it almost breaking off in there, but my God at the PIP the next few days.

Rickd1983's picture

Yes its new. I never gotten pip to speak of but ive always used longer esters. This is my first run with npp and test p. I use a 1 inch 25 gauge for my quads and delts. The npp makes them sore as hell for about 3 to 4 days. The test p is warm red and swollen for about 3 or 4 days.

Cummin apart's picture

Test p always hurts a little more than others but the “red, warm and swollen “ don’t sound good man! Maybe infection or your body reacting to something in that gear?
Maybe dirty gear?

RangerVet's picture

How long does this pain last? Does it get hot(the site you put it in) hard? Swelling? Is this new to You(injections)?
What size needle are you using? Gauge and length?
Allergic to things? Try to be specific as possible to give you some advice or help

daksmack's picture

Use the search bar, tons of open topics already in this exact topic.

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