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Amps and how to use them for a cycle

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Hello all,
I am looking for advice on a cycle that I am running. I would like to do Test E @ 600mg and NPP @ 450mg a week. I have tons of Test E (and C for that matter) because I do TRT and cycle about once a year. (I'm not looking for a conversation of short and long esters). I ordered a brand of NPP that is 150mg and wanted to run it MWF, but my source didn't have that brand on hand and sent me ampules of NPP 100 instead. (LAME... right?!) so... Hear is my question. The problem is that once the ampule is open it needs to be used . Should I just do MWF test 200 and NPP 100 and drop for a week total of 300mg npp or should I crack open 3 ampules and draw up 1 1/2 ampules with my test and store the extra drawn up syringe for 200test/150npp (I mix the test/npp when I draw). I just hate having gear drawn up waiting to be used in a syringe. It seems risky to me. My 3rd idea is to draw up test 250 and npp 200 all at once on Monday and Thursday and only do 2 pins a week, but that may not be optimal either.

Any suggestions and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Yes, I have adex .25 mwf and caber on hand. I am also running proveron .25 daily. I also use HCG every 3 weeks.

Dextermorganlv's picture

Thanks for the input. I will be doing my draws MWF Test 200/NPP 100 (1 amp) for a total of 600/300. No storing of oils in a syringe.
Thanks again

Twiztd's picture

You can run npp eod also @ 100 mg. That’s what I would do myself

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jimmie's picture

100mg of phenylprop is a decent amount 3 times per week so your option one is fine, except for the fact you're using test e at a low dose, but you don't want to talk about that...you should have a higher dose than that and/or use a shorter ester. Your blood plasma level of test should be twice that of nandrolone, which you won't come close to with those amount - I don't think anyway, hard to tell when you're not matching esters. Check out steroid calculators.

I've transferred from amps to empty vials with no problem, a pretty simple solution. But again, you don't need 150, 100 is fine, especially with your low test dose.

I assume you mean 25mg of proviron, not .25
Watch estrogen when adding hcg, if you can't get bloodwork just increase adex

Twiztd's picture

Well contrary to popular belief you don’t need to double test to nanadrol it’s just what people do. I’ve run both tren a tren e deca and npp at 700 a wk with 250 test. I have no sides at all no deca dick no acne and I sleep better. If you load up your system with a 19nor that are competing for the same receptors you are wasting the extra really. But to each there own. And increase adex just because you can’t do blood work doesn’t make sense I would at least wait until you have some kinda side you don’t want to crash your estrogen.

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jimmie's picture

For some reason I read the post as 200/ week of test e... As far as the adex goes, I can't get bloods done, I up doses or add something, Shortly after my nips start itching, up the adex. So I try to up the adex before estro goes up. Yes, everyone is different, to each their own, double the nan to test has been preached for many years, you don't need to, that's cool.

Twiztd's picture

No you don’t you jut have to watch your sides. Test is there mainly so your dick keeps working but like I said everyone is different some may need it 2-1. I just don’t like to crash my estrogen so I wait but if you already know that and your dosing then I would start 3 wks into your cycle

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giardap's picture

BOOM!

Dextermorganlv's picture

What are you talking about? 600mg of test a week id plenty. I was hoping to run 450 of npp, but i will do 300 due to the fact that i have ampules.

I dont need to match esters, i have done 2 weeks of test at 600 and am just now adding the npp. I have done Deca in the last and prefer npp. It is absolutely ok to mix long and short esters. Running test at twice the level if npp is also not required. (Although 600 is twice as much as 300)

Yes, proviron is 25 not .25. That was a typo

jimmie's picture

Oh shit I read it wrong, for some reason I saw that test at 200/ week instead of 3x/week. 600 is plenty.

giardap's picture

Dont want to talk about esters, clearly not half lifes either, just looking for a cosigner on a potentially unhygenic, terrible pinning schedule.

Hint; 100mg/ml for npp is perfect for an individual dose in an appropriate pinning plan which is eod min

kibby's picture

Jayz hit the nail on the head mate. This would be easier for you but I like the sound of option 1.

Seems like a good blast ;)

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Jayzgainz's picture

You can pick up some sterile vials and transfer the amps to the vial. Just make sure you are sterile about it. Ive done it and it makes life so much easier.

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GrowMore's picture

Sometimes the simple answers are the best ones

Dextermorganlv's picture

I agree, thanks for help.

herpjunkie111's picture

X2.

I ordered some just to have on hand in case I have a need for them, you can grab a 10 pack pretty cheap.

giardap's picture

The chap is talking about npp. Your 'experience' is muddying the water. The anti bac/preservatives and solvents used with oils degrade plunger stoppers and leave the solution toxic.
Silicone stoppers are literally eaten by benzyl benzoate. Butyl stoppers are only considered by manufacturers as a 'fair' protector against benz alcohol and benz benzoate... not 'adequate'.

If you recon gh or hcg or any lyophilised powder with bac stat water there will be an element of degradation... not wnough to kill you but who wants ba bb and rubber floating around them?
That leaves you with sterile water as an option for gh and hcg etc. which loses sterility the moment you begin to use it.... so i think it is plain to see you (all of us) cannot take all precautions really!

10 years? Ever had a raised liver enzyme value? Fact is... we dont know whats going on, really... !

Dextermorganlv's picture

I have done that with hcg and hgh too, but those are stored i the fridge which slows the growth of bacteria. On a side note, hcg is also light sensative so make sure its in a dark place.

IrishWOLFhound's picture

I sometimes i leave it for a few hours and I've been doing that for years without problems but I wouldn't leave it a couple of days etc.

RangerVet's picture

If i was you I would stick to test 600, npp 300 a week mwf
So option 1. Any questions why let me know.

Dextermorganlv's picture

Thanks man, I'm kind of leaning that way.