posted Sun, 09/17/2017 - 15:59
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Building muscle on trt
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I have been on trt for over five years now. I do the occasional cycle every year with some higher doses. I noticed when I do come down from those higher doses my physique does still build a little muscle but at a lot slower rate than if I was cycling high doses of course. And this is still on a moderate calorie diet. Not high protein at all. Does anyone else ever notice improvement in muscle mass while they are on trt or between cycles?
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I've been on trt for 2 years or so. I've steadily lost fat and gained muscle. Note that I said steadily, not quickly. I think trt just gives you the potential to build almost like you did 20 years ago. You won't blow up over night, but steady gains are there. Over the 2 years as I trim off fat, I feel better and better. I'm wearing the same size jeans I did when I was 16 so I figure that's not too bad.
I see it asked below about the dosing. As I understand it, it runs from 50-200mg/week. I started on 50/wk then 100/wk. Then my doctor jumped me to 200mg/wk. I'm only taking 150/wk of that dose right now. I decided after 8 weeks at 200 to drop it down and see where I test next. Depending on my next bloodwork it may adjust again.
I haven't ran a cycle since before xmas. During the time I've been cruising, I've still made solid gains. All of my major lifts are where they typically are while running a full blown cycle, and I weighed in at 230 this morning, so my weight is up. I contribute that all to diet and training though. I wish I hadn't fried my system and wasn't dependent on trt. I'm sure I could still accomplish what I am now on natural test production.
I think we can always make gains. Of course they're of a greater magnitude when we're blasting. the slower gains however are longer lasting, and become part of our foundation.
I believe muscle maturity has a good bit to do with it as well. Good dense slow twitch fibers take half a lifetime to develop. Many of us are just now approaching that age.
I've been on trt for five years. I haven't "blasted" at all during that time. I did try adding a very low dose of deca for my joints for a while, but I didn't notice much muscle change.
What I have notice is solid, slow gains during that time. I've also lost body fat over the time, but it was slow as well. My weight has stayed within ten pounds during that time, but my body composition has changed for the better.
The biggest changes in my physique have been with diet. You want to bulk, then add calories; to cut fat, reduce calories and eat leaner. I've been really pleased with my results.
That being said, don't ever think that trt (a REAL trt dose) will give you cycle results. It takes time and consistent effort with diet and exercise.
Great post. I am in a similar boat myself. With the slow steady gains and while not shooting up in bodyweight per se , but a significant difference in body composition. I especially appreciate your emphasis of proper diet. Diet is everything, even before training , and especially gear. Slow and steady wins the race, mate
When all is said and done, I like this path the best. I feel like it's more of a homoeostasis when done right. Maybe I'm just old, but slow, steady just feels better and that's what it's really all about.
Yup i dont see much gains but its alot easier to hold what i have gainedwhen on cycle im on 175mg a week
Same here, on 200mg test c weekly. Also find it easier to hold/keep the gains I made from a cycle.
Is 200mg a normal trt dosage? I always imagined that it was somewhere like 75-100mg per week. I'm running 200mg pw as a cycle and noticing some nice definition.
My 200mg is dr prescribed, not self medication. I see it from 75mg-220mg
Ah...ok. thanks. So, does your Doc take your test levels every month or so and then adjust to maintain a certain consistent level?
Mines takes bloods every 3 months im on 175mg a week dr prescribed trt
twice a year bloods for the doc 120 mg a week