posted Sun, 08/13/2017 - 04:43
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Feel shit from Dbol because Test hasn't kicked in?
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Hello everyone,
Stats are
age:29
height: 6'1
weight: 200lbs
bf: 12-14
I have just started a Test and Tren cycle, this is my 4th cycle, the doses are at 500 and 250. I have decided to go with Dbol as a kickstarter for 3 weeks at 60mg ed.
The test and tren are both Enanthate.
Im feeling tired and just not normal (feel unhappier mentally).
Im on my 5th day of the cycle and was wondering is the shitty feeling simply because the Test hasn't kicked in yet because of the long ester?
Should i stop the dbol and start it at week 3 or so, give the test some time to make me feel better?
Opinions please.
Thanks
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Real dianabol is like an anti-depressant
Hashtag1981Funny you say that bro , I have been hearing that across the board for years in different places ...but never on here ...weird.
I'll lower the dbol to 40mg a day and run it longer. Since I only have 20mg tabs on me. I'll dose 20 in the AM and 20 at around 6pm.
I agree with most of the guy down below. We really have no idea what your current situation is or your real stats, diet, etc. In fact if you feel like shit have you ever thought that maybe youre just having an off couple of days? Just because you have a shit demeanor doesnt mean somethings necessarily wrong. In fact I wake up feeling like garbage some days and others I am happy as can be. I believe the diagnosis is being human? 5 days isnt enough to know anything. If youre running dbol @ whatever dose it is aromatizing heavily and your e2 could have shot way up. Who knows? Any AI on hand or something to check your bp? We could throw hundreds of speculations your way but this will do no good. Get some sleep and see how you feel tomorrow? Hope it works out for you! Sorry if someone said this already too much to read through
Definitely got an AI on hand. Arimidex 1mg E3D
I appreciate the response, all taken on board, thank you.
Rustyhooker4th cycle and stats like a high school teen.
Tren is a bad choice given stats and experience. Whats your goal? Your food sucks. Posdibly gym too.
Hashtag1981I agree bro...but even further than that , I believe tren is garbage altogether , let alone TREN E
RustyhookerAt least to get past his current stats. Het a diet dialed by makwa and medex, up the calories, up the gym.... simple test and provi. Simple eat and grow.
These past cycles were several years back, when I was 23, I stopped working out for a few years due to personal reasons and have only just started training this past year. Now looking to hop back on the bike. My stats aren't great I admit, but I was way bigger back at 23/24.
My diet is on point, or I would never think of doing AAS, gym is solid too.
No need to judge so hard.
RustyhookerTren is a bad bad choice. Im done here. Yolo 2017
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backonroidsI stopped working out for personally reasons too ---- I was a lazy fuck
I have real reasons my friend.
Could be anything. Could have everything to do with steroids. Could have nothing to do with steroids.
Very insightful
Drop the tren get better sleep make sure you don't have deficiencys in your diet .. and I agree with what Brooklyn said below
You realize you're asking people who likely aren't medical professionals to speculate about your body chemistry with no bloods, no direct consultation, no nothing but some scant anecdote, yes? What insight, exactly, are you looking for?
I'm a medical professional. Here's my professional advice....
What HB said.
Thanks for that.
I suppose I am looking for anecdotes, they aren't completely useless
backonroidsHe does have a point as I've said many times on similar things it's guess work without blood work , however your not wrong for asking as sometimes it's good to hear people who may of have similar experiences but as Brooklyn said we are not doctors but it will give you a idea of what to expect before going to the docs
You should give the enanthate about 2-3weeks until u feel the full effect.
I personally wouldn't stop the dbol, they are good as kickers, but when your bad feelings increase stop with the dbols, but maybe tren is the reason for your bad mood!
btw: 60mgs dbol is not less, a lot guys feel bad by a higher dbol dosage, including me.
backonroidsAgreed I think dbol is too high if it's a decent lab , I took 50mg of dbol that was from one of the best labs here and o felt like shit due to sides . I lowered the dose to 30mg gained amazingly and felt good
Exactly, in the past I took 60mgs and more, I always felt bad, had heartburn and was tired the whole day.
Now I run always 30-40 and feel always good.
backonroidsIt's the best way mate , people don't understand that more isn't always better the dbol isn't going to make you huge the food is - all higher doses does is brings on the negative side effects quicker and yes the scales will go up but that will be just water . I would rather run a lower dose for a couple weeks longer .
Is this the first time you have run Tren by any chance? Although its the enanthate ester which takes a few weeks to build up in your system it actually loses the ester at the 24hr hour mark and peaks at 48hrs so I think its that that's making you feel unhappy as its quite depressive mentally.
That is something I have never heard of. If that is the case and tren e loses the ester at 24 hours then why would it take 3 weeks to start being built up in your system. I'm confused about that?
You should be confused, because it's a contradiction and doesn't make any logical sense.
This is the first time trying tren indeed.
I don't understand what you mean by the ester is lost at the 24 hour mark?
I thought enanthate would take 4/5 days to reach peak, then go down from there?
Rosser01If you have never used tren before you should have deff started with tren ace so if there is any problems you could drop it and it would clear your system quickly, tren can fuck with You mentally
Although it may take the enanthate ester a few weeks to build up in your system.. its effects will start being exhibited as soon as it's being released in your system (I.e soon after the first injection) so while full effects may take a bit to see, it is affecting you already. The unhappiness feeling may be caused by the influx of androgens in your system. Dbol has the tendency for mood enhancement where you feel like a million bucks so I'd continue with the dbol kicker. But my guess is that the tren has already started exhesrting its mental effects on you. This being your first time with tren I would've recommended the acetate ester over enanthate in the offxhsnce the mental sides are too much for you and you can stop it without waiting weeks for sides to clear up. But, best of luck
Thanks for backing me up, I think a few people were doubting me on that. I thought it was fairly common knowledge with all the time release graphs online demonstrating this with Test Enanthate.
Thanks for the help my man, I'm afraid I can not switch over to acetate without changing the test, it's a blend and also I can just not afford to switch, Im sure I can deal with the sides. I have a strong mind and I'm a very calm person usually. I will update soon.