posted Thu, 07/20/2017 - 07:57
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Guaiacol In TNE ='s Knots
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Guys recently purchased some TNE with Guaiacol, I have pinned 1ml pre workout twice now,Zero PIP at the time of pinning but by the 2nd day I am getting some serious knots!
Is this normal occurrence from the Guaiacol ? Does anyone have any ideas on how to maybe mix something else in the barrel so I don't receive these knots?
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Count me as one who hates guaiacol and ethyl oleate.Both suck!I tried a new source once price too good to be true and as soon as I pierced the stopper I thought " fuck me".I had asked the source what was in it before I ordered and he told me CSO only.I texted him after I opened it and he was like ... Well it's high milligram so it needed it.I tried it for like two pins but finally gave it away.It made me smell like moth balls!Needless to say I learned to stick with sources I have a good history with.
I'll read the other responses in a moment.
I can't stand the stuff. I have a vials of tren base and have only done one inject. I wont do it again...
As far as knots, i have same issue with water suspension as i did with TNE.
I'm thinking it's crystallizing too quick but that's obvious with suspension since its re-crystallized in the bottle the next day.
Guaiacol sucks. Some are allergic to it and some are not. I am allergic it turns out but not as bad as some of my friends. I can run it for a whole cycle but I knot up and get some swelling almost like a SEO. Some folks will say to add filtered GSO to dilute the recipe. I've always thought adding oil to anything is for the birds man. I learned to use compounds with less harsh solvents and get zero allergic reactions/knots/pip.
I remember nitti used to have drama with it, think he was allergic? And the toxicity builds up and makes you sleepy.
Good to see you back at it again mate!
Hopefully you stay active.
Booom
Guaiacol fucks me off fuck that shit
You ever see what that shit does to the rubber stopper of a vial? You couldn't pay me enough to use products with guaiacol or EO in it. Not to mention my body rejects it as does a lot of other guys too.
300 SavageShit!
Never really had pip issues or knots but muscle injected tends to swell up for me with guaiacol so always did only half ml in each delts or tricep.
300 SavageThanks, Roider..I'm going to try that...just .5
300 SavageYep, it's definitely like a swelling....
RustyhookerHave you read my pip forum?
It's a great forum. Where I leaned to do it correctly.
300 SavageNo, I have not....But if you have a suggestion with the Guaiacol please advise..Thanks.
I've got a great suggestion! Don't use it:) or learn to appreciate the knots:) TNE is overrated anyway. Drink some coffee as a preworkout and shoot TestP.
300 SavageI'm going to try and appreciate some knots.
RustyhookerMy suggestion was clearly posted above ^^^^^. Or you prefer a silver spoon in the dining lounge.
Its your pains. Not ours. Darwin at its finest.
Pretty sure there's nothing in that forum that will help with a guaiacol allergy which is what IMO is causing the knots. Guaiacol pinned perfectly and precisely and santitary leaves me with knots every single time. It causes me slight swelling similar to an SEO. I've also had some bad reactions to it with a lot of swelling. I've also had zero swelling. I guess it depends on the ratio in the recipe. Regardless It's just a harsh solvent regardless of technique.
Most compounds that require guaiacol like TNE, 1-Test Cyp, crazy high MG concentrates cause some knotting in the muscle bellies for certain users. Almost all of that is due to allergic reactions. I think it's more rare to find a user who does not knot on guaiacol than guys with zero knotting or allergic reactions. Anyone who has used
1-Test Cyp will attest that they knotted up during their usage of it. And if they don't say they've knotted up I'll be the first to call Bullshit. Everyone I have put on it including myself knots up on that shit. And guaiacol is in my experience always been an ingredient.
I've had two people in my circle end up with even worse allergic reactions to it. On some old TestE500 years ago I had a good friend end up with his chest tightening up and having severe respiratory issues and went to ER. He's been pinning since the late 70's without any issues until he tried some gear with guaiacol. Other friend had such a bad reaction to his injection he swelled up like it was an infection but truthfully I've had similar reactions but I didn't panic like he did. I waited it out and days later I healed and back to normal. My buddy panicked and went to ER thinking it was an infection. He got lanced, drained and packed and a nasty scar.
I think his knots are because of the guaiacol and not from poor technique or poor sanitary prep. You can heat up guaiacol all day and it won't fix the knots. That's just my personal experience.
RustyhookerThe missing part of the equation is blending as you suggested up top as not good with sterile gso.
But if the op read anything in the forum on blending it answers all those questions.
You've read my varied cycles for years now. I always blend. And almost always run ed pins. That takes away most if not all pip. You suggested blending to me back with that horrible eq acetate. Lol. Gawd that stuff hurt
Being to lazy to read is never a good habit with steroids. And spoonfeeding never gave results in retained information.
300 SavageYep!
I am taking TNE blended with Guaiacol, no issues with knotting here. PM me I'll tell you my supplier. Ain't it crazy you can taste it while pinning
300 SavageThanks yes I can taste it! and it's also very potent instant strength gains and libido bad! Just these knots are something else...