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HCG Newbie

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Hi all,

My cycle is 15 weeks.

Test E 600mg (300mg monday/300mg thurday)-Wks 1-15
Tren E 250mg (125mg monday/125mg Thursday)-Wks 1-12)

I'm planning on also using HCG, at a dosage of 500iu per week (split into two 250iu dosages).

My questions are:

When should I start the HCG? Bearing in mind I'm on test/tren e, and when stop? Is week 3-14 about right?

Is 500iu a suitable dosage given the cycle I'm running?

Can I just pin it in a normal syringe or are slin syringes preferable?

Thanks if anyone can help

giardap's picture

85kg and 26yo doing steroids? How come???

Renaissance1990's picture

Why not?

giardap's picture

Many reasons really. Here are some of the biggies......

  1. At 26 you should have bucketloads of testoserone. It is pretty crazy to shut that off before you before you take advantage of evolution / nature
  2. At 26 you should have a healthy appetite. WTF couldnt you bulk with endog testo and eat your way to heavy/heavier?
  3. 85kgs is lightweight, you should tap at least another 5/6/7 kgs Lbm before considering steroids
  4. At 26 yo - your brain is only finishing developing... considering this is your 2nd cycle, you have already interupted that development and normal function of the HPG axis. That's pretty risky, and given what you are up to and the compounds you are proposing, you will only further damage/disrupt the HPG function
  5. Brain damage is no joke. The HPG axis is a wonderland of joy and trauma... doing what you are proposing at such a young and inexperienced age/stage of development will very likely lead to problems like this: erectile dysfunction. low natural testosterone, high natural estrogen, possibly infertility, possibly forms of depression etc. Dont you want to have kids? Do you want to be on anti-depressants? or TRT for life?

I think they are the main reasons. But, my question still stands............ do you care to answer it?

PPGfreak's picture

Good info brother +1

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helloBrooklyn's picture

Although I don't regret starting when I was 25 one bit, much respect for asking these questions. +

GrowMore's picture

Fucking killing it bro!

Renaissance1990's picture

Valid reasons but I waited quite a while before I did steroids and made sure to always follow proper PCT protocol and not take silly amounts. There are obscene numbers of young men getting on the gear before they are even 18 these days.

I as a fully grown man have made the decision to embark on this cycle. While I appreciate your advice it is a qualified risk I have opted to take, much like how I drive a fast car.

I'm asking for advice on what I can do now to minimize potential risks/shutdown etc. Not on whether I should pin or not because I've already jabbed twice now.

giardap's picture

Well I guess the smart answer on not shutting down is not taking AAS!

By your own logic, you fall into the group: obscene numbers of young men getting on the gear before they are even 18 these days
Simply because the brain doesnt finish forming until somewhere in the mid twenties, so choosing not to wait to 27, logically means you fall into that group. Just had to point that out as you seemed to miss the point with the whole brain damage thing.

Anyways... I wish you nothing but the best of luck, get researching, you've quite a bit of research to do

yolo

Renaissance1990's picture

Some people say 21, some say 24, you say 27, I'm sure there are some who say 30 and even 40+.

At the end of the day there is no right time to inject hormones artificially into your body.

I've done a bit of research which is why I'm going to buy HCG. I was just wondering if someone could help me with when to take it. What week duration? 3-12? Do you take it during PCT too? etc.

giardap's picture

some say versus the facts/truth/research

"Longitudinal neuroimaging studies demonstrate that the adolescent brain continues to mature well into the 20s."
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678

"the human brain does not reach full maturity until at least the mid-20s"
Source: http://hrweb.mit.edu/worklife/youngadult/brain.html

Makwa's picture

At the end of the day there is no right time to inject hormones artificially into your body.

The right time for me was when my body no longer started producing test naturally.

Gettingbig's picture

I would like to help I've used hcg many times and many different ways.
I have to ask whats your cycle history?
How much hcg do you have?
What type of ai are you using do you also use caber?
I ask because I use hcg and it gives me spikes in my estrogen levels so I want to see that you are prepared to run tren e being 26 also that you are fully prepared and educated on your cycle.

Renaissance1990's picture

I haven't got the HCG yet but can get as much as i want.

Not using an AI at the moment, last cycle was test e 600mg and var and had no need for an AI.

I'm aware that HCG spikes estrogen levels. Do you think I should get an AI to take if I take HCG? Is it even worth taking HCG if it spikes estrogen?

giardap's picture

Perhaps you should become aware of how HCG spikes estrogen and the efficacy of an AI for that
Everything is ass before cart here

Renaissance1990's picture

That's why I'm here asking questions mate. So what AI would you recommend and what HCG dosing structure? Which weeks of the cycle or the PCT should I take it for?