posted Thu, 05/25/2017 - 14:30
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PCT for Test-E and Deca
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Hello all,
I am Sunny Soni from India. I am into my first cycle. 500mg Test E every week. I added Deca from 3rd week onwards started with 100mg Deca only every week but now into my 8th week and running 200 mg Deca per week along with test e 500 mg. i am runnning armidex .50 eod. Thanks god no side effects by now. what brought me here is pct . I am all confused about pct. some sites says clomid and nolva both and some deny uses of Nolva. i will run my deca till 10th week and test till 12th week. Please suggest me best suitable PCT. One last thing injection does not scare me but for some personal reason i dont want to pin HGH. Please suggest the PCT.
Thanks you all.
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Hello sunny soni,
I miss u.
You never got jamals autograph for me???
Makes me feel rainy cloudy and not sunny.
Thank you sunny soni.
You are my best friend.
Xx
dear i told u i have no source for same, let me become beast i will bless you with my autograph. lol
Thank you sunny soni
PissyTea???
Once I got stuck driving on a motorway years back, I was dying to go to the toilet but couldnt get off had to keep driving, had to take a pish into my Styrofoam cup....... made some horrific PissyTea
Moral of the story...... fail to prepare, prepare to fail..... If you're half way down the road and you are only thinking about this now..... URINE trouble!!
thanks for your response,
I guess you did not get me, i bought clomid when i bought other stuff,
I said i am confused about pct (courtesy loads of reading on internet), I dont wannna use HCG only becuse it may cause cancer,
Should I go like this
Clomid:
Day 1+2: 100mgs
Day 3-28: 50mgs
Day 29-35: 25mgs
Nolva:
Day 1-28: 20mgs
Day 29-35: 10mgs
One last thing I have 10 mg tablet for Clomid, should I gulp 10 tablets on one go (is not it too much) or what? I am hell of confused.
I will add zinc too. Please suggest how to take clomid and Nolva (with water , after some food or what?).
Sorry for so many questions. Hope you will understand and reply.
You should of saved your deca for a future cycle and stuck to test only. You've basically just watsted it running it for for 7 weeks total. I normally just do the standard protocol 2 weeks after last test pin nolva - 40,40,20,20,10 and clomid 50,50,50,50,25
thanks for your response,
I guess you did not get me, i bought clomid when i bought other stuff,
I said i am confused about pct (courtesy loads of reading on internet), I dont wannna use HCG only becuse it may cause cancer,
Should I go like this
Clomid:
Day 1+2: 100mgs
Day 3-28: 50mgs
Day 29-35: 25mgs
Nolva:
Day 1-28: 20mgs
Day 29-35: 10mgs
One last thing I have 10 mg tablet for Clomid, should I gulp 10 tablets on one go (is not it too much) or what? I am hell of confused.
I will add zinc too. Please suggest how to take clomid and Nolva (with water , after some food or what?).
Sorry for so many questions. Hope you will understand and reply.
I would start 10 days after your last last pinning, a regular clomid/nolva cycle.
Not too high dosaged but a bit higher dosaged
Clomid:
Day 1+2: 100mgs
Day 3-28: 50mgs
Day 29-35: 25mgs
Nolva:
Day 1-28: 20mgs
Day 29-35: 10mgs
Add 100mgs of Zinc during your whole PCT time, you can also try to stack 10-20mgs GW-501516 for the first 4 weeks, but not neccessary.
thanks for your response,
I guess you did not get me, i bought clomid when i bought other stuff,
I said i am confused about pct (courtesy loads of reading on internet), I dont wannna use HCG only becuse it may cause cancer,
Should I go like this
Clomid:
Day 1+2: 100mgs
Day 3-28: 50mgs
Day 29-35: 25mgs
Nolva:
Day 1-28: 20mgs
Day 29-35: 10mgs
One last thing I have 10 mg tablet for Clomid, should I gulp 10 tablets on one go (is not it too much) or what? I am hell of confused.
I will add zinc too. Please suggest how to take clomid and Nolva (with water , after some food or what?).
Sorry for so many questions. Hope you will understand and reply.
ClassyChassisBoth of those esters have long half-life. I've seen varying numbers but I think a week is a good general estimate. This means that whatever serum level has built up will be reduced to 1/2 after a week of cessation. After another week it will be down to 1/4. Another week, 1/8. Then 1/16. After 5 half-lives it would be down to 1/32 and you would be considered "clear".
Nolva is what they used to use before they had AIs. It occupies the estrogen receptor and blocks estrogen from docking. Once it disengages the estrogen that is still floating around can attach. Better to prevent the aromatization in the first place.
I would continue the anastrozole at 0.25mg eod for 2 weeks after cessation and then at 0.25 e3d for another 2 weeks. Forget the Nolva, but Clomid could help your gonads recover a bit. Not as well as hCG but still effective in my experience.
So basically, I am suggesting that the AI is a better solution than the Nolva (which is toxic also) albeit at a lower dose than you are running currently. I feel like 0.5mg eod might be overkill for 500mg enan/ wk anyway... Like I said,that Nolva protocol (40/40/20/20), was something Dan Duchaine came up with in the 80s. There are better ways of controlling estrogen in this day and age. They used to run Nolva on cycle also. I don't really understand how the Nolva pct survived, but that's the power of the internet for you.
thanks for your response,
I guess you did not get me, i bought clomid when i bought other stuff,
I said i am confused about pct (courtesy loads of reading on internet), I dont wannna use HCG only becuse it may cause cancer,
Should I go like this
Clomid:
Day 1+2: 100mgs
Day 3-28: 50mgs
Day 29-35: 25mgs
Nolva:
Day 1-28: 20mgs
Day 29-35: 10mgs
One last thing I have 10 mg tablet for Clomid, should I gulp 10 tablets on one go (is not it too much) or what? I am hell of confused.
I will add zinc too. Please suggest how to take clomid and Nolva (with water , after some food or what?).
Sorry for so many questions. Hope you will understand and reply.
Yea, bud you really should have thought this one through and figured this out before you even injected once. Take advice that is given to you but like said below do your research! And if you dont want to pin hgh...well dont. Im guessing you mean hcg.
thanks for your response,
I guess you did not get me, i bought clomid when i bought other stuff,
I said i am confused about pct (courtesy loads of reading on internet), I dont wannna use HCG only becuse it may cause cancer,
Should I go like this
Clomid:
Day 1+2: 100mgs
Day 3-28: 50mgs
Day 29-35: 25mgs
Nolva:
Day 1-28: 20mgs
Day 29-35: 10mgs
One last thing I have 10 mg tablet for Clomid, should I gulp 10 tablets on one go (is not it too much) or what? I am hell of confused.
I will add zinc too. Please suggest how to take clomid and Nolva (with water , after some food or what?).
Sorry for so many questions. Hope you will understand and reply.
Do your homework. It's awesome to get advice from the vets but still do your homework. You should of known what you where going to do for your pct even before you purchased your cycle. Pct is the most important part.
Go to community - forums - pct & anti estrogen
thanks for your response,
I guess you did not get me, i bought clomid when i bought other stuff,
I said i am confused about pct (courtesy loads of reading on internet), I dont wannna use HCG only becuse it may cause cancer,
Should I go like this
Clomid:
Day 1+2: 100mgs
Day 3-28: 50mgs
Day 29-35: 25mgs
Nolva:
Day 1-28: 20mgs
Day 29-35: 10mgs
One last thing I have 10 mg tablet for Clomid, should I gulp 10 tablets on one go (is not it too much) or what? I am hell of confused.
I will add zinc too. Please suggest how to take clomid and Nolva (with water , after some food or what?).
Sorry for so many questions. Hope you will understand and reply.