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URGENT... PCT refusal, and subsequent crash for lack thereof

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I have a buddy that wouldn't take my advice with pct, and or A.I. for his cycles (I am un experienced, but I have been doing research for 1.5 years, and just joined eroids before I ran my first cycle so I could get feedback). He ran his last cycle for just under 5 months it was tren A, and test P. I don't know the dosages he was taking, but he kept telling he he didn't need a PCT. He had gyno start came to me, and I gave him some aero I had (I like to be prepared for anything that could go wrong) and it took it away. He has been off his cycle for a little over a week now, and he told me he has no energy, all he does is barely make it through work each day, and when he gets home he sleeps constantly. I don't want to give him bad advice, but I haven't bought my full PCT yet so I cant give it to him. All I have is 3 boxes of 20mg Nolva. My question is with that cycle can he do a Nolva only cycle for PCT? I'm assuming not, and he would need Nolva, Clomid, and HCG, but I am not sure. Any help any of you could offer is extremely appreciated.

TheFlash85's picture

Talking about yourself not " a mate" smfh.

Iron Robbin's picture

You can believe what you want, but i know what cycle im on. I also talk to you guys on here so i know i cover all my bases. I dont want to fuck my body up for life. I would never run tren for a first cycle either. I dont know enough about it, and any of this is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

Muffins's picture

Stop giving this dude your shit if you don't have a surplus yourself.

MegaTRON13's picture

Your "buddy" is going to mess himself up if he already hasn't... He needs professional help. What does he expect, that's what he gets for not knowing what he's taking??? it was probably his first cycle too... SMFH..

Iron Robbin's picture

He says he's done a few other cycles. From all the research i've done i know PCT is the most important thing. The thing I never understood is why he was never able to gain muscle. It's weird, but first he does not have a serious work ethic, but on top of that he said he ran his first cycle for 3 months when he was around 270 and he was pretty fat. He lost a ton of weight to around 15-20% body fat. He continued to run other cycles, but he never gained any size. Is that due to him neglecting PCT, his lack of work at the gym, or a combo of both? The only other thing I can think is if he's getting bunk gear, but with him getting gyno I doubt the gear is bunk.

shiva4's picture

Well, I guess the good news for your buddy is; since he hates pct so much, he probably won't ever have to run it again. He may be stuck on trt for life....

Makwa's picture

He made his bed so let him lay in it. Eventually natural selection will get rid of all these dumbasses anyway.

333's picture

That's the first thing in thought... I use that saying a lot with my children. My buddy won't listen to me at all he did 8 months tren ace and thinks cruising at 900mg is normal he's been doing this for almost 3 years. I keep telling him but I guess he won't listen till he has a stroke

Iron Robbin's picture

I kind of figured he is fucked. I told him about this forum, and he always told me he's never used PCT, but as far as I can tell at least he never keeps his gains either. I guess i'll try to lead him here again, and if he post's maybe he will listen to you guys since you have the life experience I don't have. Thanks guys I appreciate it.

helloBrooklyn's picture

If he's never going to do PCT is he going to at least consider TRT? I understand doing one or the other, but neither? Absolutely stupid.

Goose24's picture

Another "my buddy" story

IrishMack's picture

Researching for 1.5 years and you gave him aero (whatever the fuck that is) and Nolva for a 4 month tren and prop cycle? I can't even smh. His pct will be lackanookie for the next couple weeks followed by limpis dickus for another few after that. If he is such a hard head let him take his medicine. The more you teach the more they ignore.

Iron Robbin's picture

no. I'm on a 500mg/wk test cyp cycle for 12 weeks. I'm 4 weeks in, and I have my nolva for PCT, and im ordering some clomid too. I dont know enough about tren or anything, so I just went with a test only cycle for my first cycle.

giardap's picture

LOL !!!!

BOOOOOM!

giardap's picture

yep!!! but the tren and his new breasts are making him behave like an angry woman, covering shit up

shiva4's picture

Tell your buddy to join and seek advice himself. Sounds like he doesn't like to take advice anyways. He will just have to learn the hard way that close mindedness and the lack of intelligence which lead him to not be open to receiving advice causes problems in life.

A 5 month cycle and expecting to not need pct? I don't even know what to say about that.....

helloBrooklyn's picture

He'll live.

giardap's picture

LOL pmsl here!
leave him to it, know-all prick
Let him find out the hard way and pony up to get his titties clipped in a while
It will be the best lesson he will ever learn

No sympathy whatsoever

SenseiMiagi's picture

He needs to learn the hard way IMO. He'll get over the lack of PCT blues eventually, them maybe he researches the proper way for the future.

If youve given him proper advice, its on him to follow it.

grawrruff's picture

There are plenty of vendors on here with what he needs. Peptide vendors are often domestic and many carry liquid pct products that will arrive quickly. I would not give up my own pct on hand if I were you.

I agree an hcg blast, then the standard 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 pct would be best, and as always BLOOD WORK!

IrishMack's picture

Read the posts above, we don't give advice to 3rd parties. We have no idea who that person is, could be a 19 year old 125 pounds soaking wet. No neg this time but others might not be so nice in the future.
Also suggesting research Chem's for pct is terrible advice. My finger is real close to the thumbs down just on that alone.