posted Sun, 01/22/2017 - 21:56
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Hello people. I will be 24 years old (5'10) in a couple weeks. I have been weight lifting since I was 16, so about 8 years. I weighed 120 pounds when I first started training. Peaked at 200 pounds (dirty bulk) and I am currently a leaner 180-185 pounds. I am pretty sure I have reached my genetic potential, due to my long term dedication, testing of diets etc. I was waiting to hit 24-25 years before I started to consider taking steroids. That time is now!
So I had a couple questions, I will start with the basics:
- What would you recommend a first timer who is looking to gain like 15-20 lean pounds max in 2-4 months? I was thinking Test Enanthate (Preferably something not to strong).
- Which steroid would allow me to maintain most of my gains once I cycle off/how do I maintain gains once I cycle off (If I can maintain even half of the 15-20 pounds that would be great.
- Lastly I'm based in New York and would appreciate any referrals to where I can get my blood work done, cheap.
Note: I only plan to use steroids once to hit my 200+ pound lean mass goal.
Thanks in advance!
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Train hard,diet healthy, and sleep your body will change and you will still be healthy as hell at 25 with no worries about what to take with what and how to keep it after. For now at that age i would just do those 3 things.
"First rule about fight club
Do not TALK about fight club
Second rule of fight club
Do not TALK about fight club..." etc etc etc
(WHEN UNDER AGE)
I know what you really meant to say was, "I only plan to use steroids once I turn 25 and a half, and hit my 200+ pound lean mass goal.
Indicate otherwise in any forum, review, or post, and I'll have you banned.
My god son you have plenty of time your body has not even began to reach its full potential,train,eat sleep,and give it time that's the best advice I can give you,don't rush in before you have build a true solid foundation.good luck my friend.
KRTeeI'd personally say you're pretty safe doing a basic Test E cycle. I ran a 500mg/wk Test E cycle, loved it. As far as what works best to maintain gains once off, I'm not sure it really matters what steroid you use for this. It's all about PCT protocol, diet, and how hard you're training during PCT.
RustyhookerHow you enjoying neg karma? Keep it up and you'll get a troll tag
He's better off starting over.
I don't think you have reached your genetic potential. In fact I feel just the opposite. You should see good, quality gains over the next 3 to 5 years without touching ANY AAS at all. I recommend you look into different training approaches, as the body needs to be kept off gaurd. The site is full of great advice, and while no one is discouraging you from staying and learning, you won't find advice here on how to run gear because simply put, you're too young for it.
Also, look at your diet. This is a great time to go more in depth into your specifics of your diet, such as macros, and REALLY dial it in. Strategic eating with a good clean diet and a refreshed training plan will prove to you that your plateaus havent even been scratched yet. The harder you work, the more you will gain. Really focus on learning EVERYTHING you can about lifting and eating, and I bet in a year from now, if you come back on or stay on as a member, you will thank all of us for suggesting you stay off of AAS.
Knowledge really is power my friend, the more you know, the more you will grow. Good luck!
Dead23Hey jmk, like one other has stated, gaining 20lb lean muscle isn't realistic, even on a first cycle.. however 10lb something isn't out of the picture. I gained 13lb of lean mass on my first cycle at 19 years of age (young I know). I'm about to turn 27 and in my opinion feel that at 24-25 years of age, it's perfectly fine to do your first cycle.. I know others on this thread disagree, but it's my opinion.. below is a link to a video which covers most first cycle questions. The advice it gives is very sensible and should point you in the right direction
https://youtu.be/SjD4Um8mnWw
Your opinon is shit so keep it to yourself, no aas under 25.
Dead23I wasn't going to respond to this, however in the interest of someone else like myself coming along in the future and finding themselves in the same situation, (being flamed for trying to help a novice) I decided that I would enlighten you from my perspective.
I signed up to Eroids. The first thing I did was to read the rules of the forum. Nothing is stated in the rules (or anywhere else that I have noticed) about 25 years of age being the minimum age permitted to receive advice on here. So, being that I'm not a mind reader, I stumble upon this thread and give advice. Just because others in the thread didn't agree with the OP starting his first cycle, that in my mind was no reason to stray from my own personal opinion.. Kibby was nice enough to point out (in a mature and sensible manner) that the general consensus on the forum was a strict no advice to 25yr olds or under. If that's the way things are done around here then that's absolutely fine.. however to be fair, there's nothing in the rules or anywhere else, and no one has yet linked me to any thread discussing this consensus, so how was I to know being a completely new member??
TheFlash85, lashing out like that is completely unnecessary. If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were under 25 given your abrupt, immature response. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were just having a bad day.
RustyhookerYou got -2 from me as well.
Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt i appreciate it, im greatful that a nobody such as you gave me a second chance, smh. Learn the forum protocol before you shout your mouth off, ive been digging in these forum trenches going on 5 years, fact you have a brand new account and chose to comment here on under age steroid advice means your a kid, struck a cord huh? Mouth on a twig, i look forward to seeing your professional advice in the forums, ill be watching and waiting pal, im good at correcting dumb kids like you, i know my shit and those who know me know that, i love embarrasing smart ass punk kids like you with no brains. Get too fuck!
Dead23As I said... there is no written "protocol" available to become familiar with and you are yet to link me to any...
Professional advice?? It's all broscience and opinions. Nothing professional about the advice given on a forum. If we were referencing emotional intelligence rather than the 4 year age gap (me 27 you 31) between us, you'd be the kid, and you do sound like one.. you obviously derive some sort of feeling of superiority/authority by having lived on this forum for 5+ years and enjoy giving people who are new to this forum a hard time. I guess people have to feel validated somehow.
Anyway, you have 5+ years experience on here so I guess that makes you a seasoned keyboard warrior. That means that this conversation has the potential to go on forever. That is something I don't have time for.. so this is the last time I'll be responding to this thread.. as well as the fact that I feel like I'm talking to a 2 year old. Conversations with 2 year olds don't go anywhere.
Thank you ☺
We don't condone steroid use at that age on this site.
It's against the rules and also dangerous for him.....please don't give anyone bad advice
Dead23I have read the rules and it says nothing about giving advice to specific age groups. So as it stands, it does just come down to personal opinion rather than being a concrete rule.
What age do people condone steroid use on this forum?
You should have listened to those who have been here longer than you before you dug your heals in to try and buck our eroids culture ...now you are truly dead.
To be honest mate a lot of members will try and discourage steroid use altogether.
But anyone 25 or under.....ABSOLUTELY no steroid advice.....only diet/training mate.
Just use common sense mate and welcome to eroids.
Fr sent
Stay away is the best thing!
Do not go down this road yet.
give it 10-15 years and you can thank us later
I agree with what BigSwole said plus I'd add that to think u can gain 15-20 lean mass first cycle(or any cycle) your kidding your self. You may gain 15-20 but a lot of that would be water bro. Actual lean muscle gain, be happy with 2-4 pounds and u can keep that after cycle given diet and training are on point. Most important thing I can tell someone new to AAS is that this is a test in patience. To build mature quality muscle, time is what it takes. Years at that. But that's not to discourage u. If you determined to this lifestyle you can get there. Also no that AAS isn't the means to the end. AAS is simply the "icing on the cake". Follow? Hard work, diet, rest will get u to achieve your goals. Food is the most anabolic thing there is. More food and the right food will help u pack it on, not AAS. Its important not to get that fact backwards. Good luck bro.
Thanks SlowBro, it is much appreciated. I made the edits as well. I first did extensive research on steroids a couple years back, but I am only getting back into it and I completely agree. Reading up on the literature is key. As far as my natural gains I have never been able to achieve 200 pounds lean even on a strict diet. I played on a national level Rugby team, had a personal trainer, slept 7-8 hours everyday etc. and it wasn't until I began a dirty bulk that I easily jumped to 200 pounds and lost a lot of lean mass in the process.
As far as the correct age, I have been getting mixed responses. My friends personal trainer told me 24-25 and most other people on forums have told me 24. So I am just trying to figure out how big the difference is within that year gap
first off, this is a steroid review site. look at the front page and there are hundreds of places to buy steroids with reviews of steroid quality and service. secondly, talking about where to buy steroids is against the rules on the forums, keep it to the sources pages.
i agree you should wait to use steroids until you build up yourself a bit more naturally. at your height you should be able to push 200-220 naturally no problem. there are a lot of resources out there that will help you answer the questions that you asked. you need to research and read up as much as you can before diving into steroids.
and in general, below 25 years old is too young to run steroids. your natural test should be at decent levels before that time and if you start steroids too young you risk long term side effects such as placing yourself at a higher risk for needing TRT.